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Submitted by Sarah on Mon, 06/12/2006 - 7:06am.

I would next like to present Comrade Bill White for adoption. He has written quite a bit about himself and others have also, the SPLC dubs him The Gossip. (Scroll down to second entry) Bill White says he originally was a radical leftist.

He is quite proud of his online hate site and blog.

Back in April I made a prediction here on OlyBlog, that we will see an increase in smear campaign tactics used on Oly community members. I also posted this on a personal blog I was running at the time. Bill White responded on his own blog with a nice example of exactly what I was talking about.

Bill White is the spokesman for the National Socialist Movement. He is based in Roanoke, Virginia. We can converse with him through comments on his blog and site, he also can be reached at (Edit 10/2008 email down). I've had civil email exchanges with him so I know that is possible, civility. I look forward to his press releases about Olympia.


[Photo from nsm88.com]

Adopt a Nazi #1

Update 10/22: Bill White is no longer a member of the NSM. He is now "commander" of the newly formed American National Socialist Workers' Party

ADL update

 

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Update on Nazi Bill White

Dave Neiwert on Orcinus has updates on Bill White: The hate also rises. Bill White and other white supremacists have already posted comments.

Bill White claims on his own site that some of his people did a swastika banner drop from a bridge in Portland, Oregon recently. He also writes "An ANSWP event in the Pacific Northwest has been organized for the first weeks of July."

Jim Ramm, who is still a member of the National Socialist Movement, says that White is lying about the banner in Portland, that it did not happen.

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This little feller was never

This little feller was never adopted was he. How sad. I still wait for the day that I find my long lost nazi.
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True Dedication

I'm keeping an eye out for your long lost Nazi on the web, no luck. So sad. I can even hear violins as I write this.
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Ah yes...the violins. The

Ah yes...the violins. The soundtrack of my life.
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update

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OMG Sarah!

you ARE in love with him.
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more like following the story closely

The Adopt a Nazi series was run to help pass on some info on the white supremacists targeting people here in Olympia and elsewhere. Also as an attempt to lighten things up with humor.

His group is responsible for recent harassment of people locally and in Oregon, along with all the activity detailed other places.

Want to read more? Sure you do:

Neo-Nazi Leader Jailed

Millionaire Nazi - Fallen?

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I know and love the series.

I appreciated the humor approach to wrestling with Nazis. I was trying to add to the humor and apparently missed. For my bungled attempt a sincere Mea Culpa.
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no worries

No mea culpa needed either. We be cool.
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Best to err on the side of civility

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indicted by federal grand jury - no bail

Neo-Nazi fails to persuade judge to release him
After listening for hours to the online ramblings and rantings of an angry neo-Nazi, a federal judge ruled Wednesday night that William A. White is a danger to the community and should be held without bond.
"It's your own words, Mr. White, that require me to detain you," U.S. magistrate Judge Michael Urbanski said.
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Homeland Security?

The guy has been promoting domestic terrorism for years. Why did it take so long for the Feds to take action?
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Um, because he's white?

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Are you serious?

You really think everyone sat around and said, "We're going to give him a pass because he's white" and then decided one day, "Ok, he's gone too far"?

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Off the mark

They were hands-off because they did not yet need to build up his credibility for operations inside of the culture of white power prisoners. Example: Matt Hale, who happened to attend SIU-C Law School while I was a student in Journalism at the same university. Unfortunately for Mr Hale, his choices of passwords and terminals from which to use those passwords was more to my own benefit than his. His website for years also featured Back Orifice server software (installed by another, and exploited by a close associate) which allowed me to supervise his contacts with his FBI handling agents. In other words, Mr Hale is leading at least two lives for the FBI (now inside the Prison System).

So, I suspect, will Mr. White. How do I know? Because Mr. White and I have exchanged some rather interesting emails in which he thought I was one of the agents who handled Mr Hale. And instead of calling me by the last name which was used in the original post, he wrote back using "my" first name AND HANDLE from the previous system. Fnord.

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Thanks Drew

Most interesting and not surprising.

Makes me wonder about all those other vocal American Nazis and what pecentage of them are serving two masters?

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Fnord

Fnord is the typographic representation of disinformation or irrelevant information intending to misdirect, with the implication of a conspiracy. The word was coined as a nonsensical term with religious undertones in the Discordian religious text Principia Discordia (1965) by Kerry Thornley and Greg Hill, but was popularized by The Illuminatus! Trilogy (1975) of satirical conspiracy fiction novels by Robert Shea and Robert Anton Wilson. From Wikipedia
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Wrong in this particular instance...

In this particular case I mean "Don't expect me to prove any of this, since to do so would mean I'm proving myself and two others guilty of several Federal felonies."

Perhaps the word was ill-chosen, but my own understanding was that it was (in the original work) a word inserted into texts to make those reading the text uncomfortable after reading it, and thus less likely to read it again or remember it at all. Supposedly it is programmed into us when we're very young and we're blind to it until we break free of the programming. When we "can see the fnords" we're on track to understanding the real mechanisms of the social control memes which assault us daily, and the news we read means more to us than what appears within the lines - we literally see the extra words between the lines, padded with 'fnords'.

In this case, the social control program I'm referring to is the notion that the US Government, which is predominantly led by white men at every level and is demonstrably racist structurally and specifically throughout its history, somehow is allied with black Americans and is somehow opposed to white supremacy. To induce our belief in its competency and its altruism, the government will occasionally "bust" lower-class, uneducated, and violent men such as the two recent examples, while systematically ignoring the kinds of incidents which happen daily and are occasionally illustrated in things like the shooting of Amadou Bailo Diallo (September 2, 1975 – February 4, 1999).

The recent bust of Mr White is a prime example of a person long ignored until it was necessary to show an incoming administration that certain law enforcement personnel were on the right side of politics. Similar in many ways to a string of church burnings which were suddenly front and center in national attention when Bill Clinton came to power.

We're being stroked, folks. This Bill White arrest isn't law enforcement, it's show business.

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My bad

Thanks for the clarification
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No, I suspect the process was quite unconscious

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even more

Did Neo-Nazi White go too far this time?

This is an in depth article from The Roanoke Times - Roanoke is White's home town and this newspaper's staff has experienced harassment from White in the past. Good discussion of speech issues.

Hat tip due to blogger Nikki at her Nikki's Nest, she is following this story closely. Plus the comment threads are fascinating. White supremacists post comments on an anti-racist blog - not only to do the usual crude insults, but to contribute information and also to threaten one another. Yes it appears that often a white supremacist's worst enemy is another white supremacist.

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I have seen the fnords

Scroll down in that wikipedia article Laurian linked to and there is more info on usuage including how Drew is using the word.

For further enlightenment try this fnord text

Extra credit for learning about Eris. 

When it comes to White - my uneducated guess is that this is both law enforcement and show biz. 

More on the story - Portland (Oregon) Tribune article:  National white supremacist leader with local ties arrested

 

A national white supremacist leader who allegedly masterminded a series of neo-Nazi incidents in the Portland area early this year has been arrested on federal civil rights charges.
William White, 31, heads the Virginia-based American National Socialist Workers Party. He took credit for a series of swastika flags flown along Interstate 5 and Highway 217 near Tigard in late February. The flags were hung from red balloons. Some were attached to buildings.
At the time, White told the Portland Tribune that the flags had been flown by local followers. White declined to identify the followers in an e-mail exchange with the newspaper. No one has ever been arrested for the incidents.
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update

Imagine you're a self-proclaimed, neo-Nazi leader who routinely spews hatred and disdain against blacks, Jews and others.

You get arrested on a charge of encouraging violence against a juror and end up in federal court in Chicago.

You're sitting before U.S. District Court Judge William Hibbler, who belongs to a group of people you have derided as "half-ape" and "n-----s."

In other words, he's black.

Neo-Nazi must now lie in bed he made
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