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Force is Excessive
Submitted by Ehver Green on Thu, 11/08/2007 - 8:01am.Anytime force is used it is excessive. I think it becomes a necessity when the neutral zone is compromised.
The picture in The Olympian shows a very agressive protester challenging a Police Officer. This seems a bit crazy. Although, 2 out of a 100 makes me think a couple of folks just couldn't hold back their emotions. Let's hope this incidient isn't the catalyst for further confrontation.
In the last five seconds of
Submitted by The Fire Inside on Thu, 11/08/2007 - 8:07am.In the last five seconds of the video on The Olympian, there's a protester who comes within more than an arms reach of a police officer. It looks like he's using a digital camera to snap a picture, but holy shit...
In Basic and AIT there's a greater emphasis on all jobs getting urban combat and dismounted (walking) patrol training. Allowing someone to get that close to you is a huge no-no. You do whatever it takes to protect your "personal space" and the integrity of the formation.
Eye witness
Submitted by listening on Thu, 11/08/2007 - 1:05pm.Sounds like the police
Submitted by Guglielmo on Thu, 11/08/2007 - 1:13pm.Of course you video taped this right?
Submitted by Tschida on Thu, 11/08/2007 - 1:15pm.One of the great non sequiturs of the left is that, if the free market doesn't work perfectly, then it doesn't work at all-- and the government should step in.
Thomas Sowell
Let's pretend they did video tape it
Submitted by Guglielmo on Thu, 11/08/2007 - 1:19pm.They should post it.
Submitted by Tschida on Thu, 11/08/2007 - 1:24pm.One of the great non sequiturs of the left is that, if the free market doesn't work perfectly, then it doesn't work at all-- and the government should step in.
Thomas Sowell
I smacked someone with a baton
Submitted by Guglielmo on Thu, 11/08/2007 - 1:34pm.Nope.
Submitted by Tschida on Thu, 11/08/2007 - 1:39pm.One of the great non sequiturs of the left is that, if the free market doesn't work perfectly, then it doesn't work at all-- and the government should step in.
Thomas Sowell
While blocking the convey
Submitted by The Fire Inside on Thu, 11/08/2007 - 7:54pm."Beaten" is a pretty strong word. My assumption is that if you were "beaten" with a baton you might be in for an extended stay at St. Pete's.
"Struck?" I can go with that.
The point is the convoy is being blocked. Did you think the military and law enforcement were actually going to stop the movement from taking place?
I'm all for people taking to the street if they really believe in something. You just have to expect that, when you keep knocking on the door for confrontation, someone is going to open it and you're going to get confrontation.
Too Bad
Submitted by grandma on Thu, 11/08/2007 - 8:25am.Too bad some individuals turned what was billed as a "family friendly" protest into a confrontation with Oly PD. Yelling, cursing, or spitting on Oly PD won't do one whit to bring the troops home or influence US policy on this awful war.
A job well-done by the OPD.
Submitted by Merwyn Haskett on Thu, 11/08/2007 - 8:51am.Damn the United States! I wish I may never hear of the United States again!
Philip Nolan, the man without a country
What happened to being
Submitted by OperaGirl on Thu, 11/08/2007 - 9:14am.What happened to being "peaceful"?
Music is the mediator between the spiritual and the sensual life. ~Ludwig van Beethoven
That reminds me, my comment
Submitted by Merwyn Haskett on Thu, 11/08/2007 - 9:22am.Damn the United States! I wish I may never hear of the United States again!
Philip Nolan, the man without a country
But...
Submitted by Guglielmo on Thu, 11/08/2007 - 9:39am.And illegal...
Submitted by Ehver Green on Thu, 11/08/2007 - 9:53am.You have a striking commitment to irrelevance
Submitted by Guglielmo on Thu, 11/08/2007 - 9:54am.I'm not going to entertain
Submitted by Ehver Green on Thu, 11/08/2007 - 9:55am.I'm not going to entertain your small-mind today. You're smarter than this.
I think we both are smarter than that
Submitted by Guglielmo on Thu, 11/08/2007 - 9:58am.I do.
Submitted by Ehver Green on Thu, 11/08/2007 - 9:58am.I just had a different
Submitted by OperaGirl on Thu, 11/08/2007 - 10:11am.I just had a different vision in my head of what a peaceful protest would be.
Music is the mediator between the spiritual and the sensual life. ~Ludwig van Beethoven
Me too
Submitted by Guglielmo on Thu, 11/08/2007 - 10:22am.I'm shocked
Submitted by Norm on Thu, 11/08/2007 - 9:59am.watched it all last nite & laughed
Submitted by chad360 on Thu, 11/08/2007 - 12:14pm.maybe TFI has perspective, but based on what I have done & seen here & abroad, last nite was entertaining to say the least-
all these "covert" types in hoodies running around with masks, etc...
Like the OPMR could stop a kitten: the police schooled you all & the mil.rigs rolled on & on.
The OPMR is a joke: always has been and always will be--
I guess part of me was expecting something "real" to happen, and I guess that it is good that no one got shot, etc...all things considered I'd rather not have the federal evil eye focused on oly-
--there are better things to do with your time during the harvest season than protest, other ways to "fight the man" (ifn that is yer goal and all...)
on the good side: Cops downtown didn't have time to hassle folks that much since the stryker move was on...
Wow. Trollish.
Submitted by OlyDowntowner on Thu, 11/08/2007 - 12:28pm.Taking the bait?
Submitted by Norm on Thu, 11/08/2007 - 12:31pm.Oh man
Submitted by Guglielmo on Thu, 11/08/2007 - 12:38pm.you so made up that word. Are you just antagonizationizing me? Ouch! that's worse than pepper spray...or perhaps taserization.
Who loves ya Normie?
You do!!!
Submitted by Norm on Thu, 11/08/2007 - 12:40pm.I must say I'm
Submitted by Guglielmo on Thu, 11/08/2007 - 12:42pm.Are we going to have to
Submitted by OperaGirl on Thu, 11/08/2007 - 1:05pm.Are we going to have to watch Norm do the Truffle Shuffle?
Music is the mediator between the spiritual and the sensual life. ~Ludwig van Beethoven
Oh, please have the G-man
Submitted by Merwyn Haskett on Thu, 11/08/2007 - 1:06pm.Damn the United States! I wish I may never hear of the United States again!
Philip Nolan, the man without a country
Y'know
Submitted by Norm on Thu, 11/08/2007 - 2:50pm.You don't say, Norm!
Submitted by OlyDowntowner on Thu, 11/08/2007 - 1:06pm.What would Olyblog be
Submitted by Norm on Thu, 11/08/2007 - 2:15pm.What would Olyblog be without you?
I'll guess...boring.
no, just commenting
Submitted by chad360 on Fri, 11/09/2007 - 4:13pm.Bait, Troll, Antagonize...what is the difference to you?
Hook, Line & Sinker (like Norm said)
I didn't antagonize anyone ('cept you 'downtowner)-- I was just watching & this 'blog is a place for comment, discussion, rant, etc...so >whatever<
I'll cheer this mess when there is something to celebrate-
I loved this little gem from
Submitted by NWarty on Thu, 11/08/2007 - 12:32pm.I loved this little gem from the article in the Olympian:
"At one point, the protesters dumped garbage on Capitol Way near Thurston Avenue in an unsuccessful bid to stop the convoys."
Good method
Submitted by Norm on Thu, 11/08/2007 - 12:35pm.Actually, considering their routine exposure
Submitted by Guglielmo on Thu, 11/08/2007 - 1:10pm.Wow
Submitted by Norm on Thu, 11/08/2007 - 2:49pm.I really doubt they had that in mind
Submitted by Guglielmo on Thu, 11/08/2007 - 2:51pm.I'm really trying hard to
Submitted by Norm on Thu, 11/08/2007 - 2:57pm.to road side bombs in Iraq
Submitted by The Fire Inside on Thu, 11/08/2007 - 7:44pm.I highly, highly doubt they put that much thought into it.
yeah
Submitted by Rob Richards on Thu, 11/08/2007 - 7:53pm.That's why I called it thoughtless
Submitted by Guglielmo on Fri, 11/09/2007 - 4:21pm.Exactly Gug as I was going
Submitted by NWarty on Thu, 11/08/2007 - 1:12pm.I was out there watching until around 1AM or so
Submitted by Rob Richards on Thu, 11/08/2007 - 4:11pm.It's an interesting game of cat and mouse. As my good friend, and someone I consider wise, said last night "What people on every side of this, the protesters and the cops both, fail to realize is that this is all theater. Nobody here is in control of what's going on, not the cops, not the soldiers, none of us."