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Submitted by emmettoconnell on Fri, 02/23/2007 - 8:08pm.
From email:

I talked with an earthquake expert from DNR about the proposed new City Hall site.  This is what he said:  He believes that the land the city hall would be built on is much newer fill than some of the land farther out on the Port.  He thinks it is probably engineered, rather than hydrologic fill, which means its safer.  That being said, the city of Olympia will have to do what others have done on Port property, which is to sink a deep pile foundation at least 55 feet deep.  That would be somewhat more expensive, but not prohibitively so.
 
He did say that the land on the port liquified in several places during the last earthquake and that in the event of another one there could very possibly be some lateral spreading of parking lots (including the city hall's) and roads down there; in other words, they could  break up.  That could be problematic if you had fires at the Port, which are a common occurrence at ports after earthquakes.
 
I asked about the possibility of inundation from tsunami triggered by the Seattle Fault.  He said at most 2 feet.  We also discussed the possibility of a wave triggered by the Olympia fault, which is just north of Tumwater Falls, or a landslide tsunami, but he said those are a bigger danger in deeper water than the south Sound has.
 
I forgot to ask him about what would happen in a subduction zone earthquake, but I feel better after talking to him, anyway.
 
I imagine we can ask more questions about this at the community open house on March 1st.  Hopefully there will be some engineers there.
 
Nancy
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Any chance...

The city of Olympia would consider relocating their city hall to Tumwater or Lacey?  It seems to me that either of those places would seem to suit our city officials better than anywhere near downtown Olympia.

"I would make it impossible for the covetous and avaricious to utterly impoverish the poor. The rich can take care of themselves."
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The idea of consolidating

The idea of consolidating the three cities comes up once in awhile. I wonder what such a new city would be called? Think about how many layers of government Olympia has already: State capital, county seat, municipal government, partners in regional councils, port, fire and caiman infestation patrol districts, etc.

If, as it seems, the majority of Oly City Council (except for one lone sensible person) is determined to build the taxpayers' new city hall on expensive and flood/earthquake prone land, the least they could do is consider this alternative: One enormous houseboat. Have the whole thing floating on a giant barge. It will rise with the tides. It will not shatter while rigidly attached to Jello fill dirt. It will be a tourist attraction.

And, I will continue to ask a question more of you Olympians (I live up in the safe hills of east Grays Harbor County) should be asking your City Council: What is their plan for the inevitable sea level rise?

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An Ark?

I'm not entirely sure how long a cubit is, but a city hall on an ark is a fine idea and works on many levels.  Failing that, maybe the Kalakala can be pressed into service as the new city hall on the water.  Solve two problems at the same time.





















I would make it impossible for the covetous and avaricious to utterly impoverish the poor. The rich can take care of themselves."
^@^
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The Kalakala Option

I like it. If nothing else the Kalakala could serve as a parking garage for City Hall employees, who in turn would work on floating office barges.
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and besides...

...I just like saying "Kalakala"


"I would make it impossible for the covetous and avaricious to utterly impoverish the poor. The rich can take care of themselves."
^@^
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What if the sea level rises

What if the sea level rises by say, 3 meters or so, which is possible given climate change estimates? Where would that put the new city hall? I would move for location on higher ground... say the Madison elementary building?

In the Course of Events

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As much as I too like saying

As much as I too like saying "Kalakala," and seriously think the Oly powers should consider a floating HQ, I realize the status quo will never stretch themselves that far. Much too radical and practical. In my Olympia memory, which goes back farther than maybe any of the City Council members, the Capital City municipal government has always been a cautious and smug institution. I hope these OlyBlog posts are still around for historians of the future when they look back and wonder what the heck the Council was thinking when they invested mega taxpayer dollars in a sinking landfill which will certainly be swallowed up by global warming or shook up right smart by a medium quake. Right now is Olympia's chance to start making a plan to adjust and survive when the tides start rising. But instead, they are placing their headquarters right in the center of the disaster. Imagine Babbitt as a scuba diver. Who is going to profit from this? Not the people of Olympia-- the supposed employers of the city officials. So who else would profit?-- you Olympian activists should check it out. And what is the City's plan about dealing with global warming anyway?

Crenshaw's and Rob's visions are superior to what I've heard from the Oly Council.

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The Olympian Gets It Right

Olympian editorial, Mar. 3, 2007:

Olympia must see to flooding

Our views


How much sense does it make to build a new Olympia City Hall where the city's own maps show flooding will occur with a rise in sea level?

Is it rational to have a police station in a flood zone?

Those are serious questions the Olympia City Council must address now, not after construction has begun.

What's troubling is the city's own maps show that very piece of Port of Olympia property selected for the new City Hall will flood if global warming results in a sea level rise in southern Puget Sound. It was enough of a concern to cause councilwoman Karen Messmer to vote against the port property as a location for the new headquarters for the city of Olympia. Messmer also voted against putting the Hands On Children's Museum in an adjacent parcel - also subject to flooding.

Sea level rise is a legitimate concern that other council members should take seriously.

A University of Oregon study issued in January estimated that sea level would rise two feet, swamping 56 square miles of South Sound by the end of the century - affecting the lives of 44,429 people. The Puget Sound Action Team has suggested sea levels could rise by 3 feet, Messmer said.

City projections show that a 2-foot rise in the level of saltwater would cause Budd Inlet to flood the East Bay City Hall site.

Messmer is right when she says that the city should do more research before investing millions of dollars in a City Hall that might be partially underwater in the future.

"I want some assurance that we are going to address this flooding issue," Messmer said.

Doesn't it make sense for the city to address the sea level rise issue for all of downtown Olympia BEFORE deciding to build a pair of multimillion dollar structures in an area they know will flood?

Assistant Olympia City Manager Subir Mukerjee said the city will hold a public forum sometime this year to hash out solutions to the sea level rise problem, after which the city will put together an action plan.

Lowering greenhouse gas emissions would also address the global warming problem, Mukerjee said. "It'll take more than just Olympia doing that," he said. "It's something we need to look at statewide, nationally and internationally."

And that's the point. In their haste to build a City Hall, the Olympia City Council has chosen to ignore the threat of flooding with a promise to address that problem sometime in the future.

Does that make sense?

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