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Submitted by emmettoconnell on Mon, 05/01/2006 - 9:46am.

Anyone want the Spar?

According to a comment owner Alan McWain (or a person claiming to be him) put at the Olympian, selling the Spar has to do with more than just the smoking ban:

Over the years I have seen many up and down cycles. Since the year 2000, we have experienced the Nisqually Eathquake,resulting in the closure of the Fourth Avenue Bridge for three years, the 911 terrorist attacks, a slow economy and most recently the smoking ban has affected my business in particular. My business was further impacted by .08 DUI laws. My business was impacted by the increase in tobacco taxes which are 75% on cigars and $2.06 on a pack of cigarettes, while the tribal casinos pay no taxes and can sell their cigarettes for $2.50 each while my wholesale cost is $4.47 each. My business was impacted when I-892 failed, which would have allowed The Spar electronic slot machines like the tribal casinos have. The Spar was impacted when in the last five years, the minimum wage has increased 39%. And of course initiative I-901, the smoking ban has impacted my business in a much bigger way than I could have imagined. Someone in an email said I was whining. These are the facts and if it sounds like whining then so be it.

The rules and regulations have changed so much over the years, that quite frankly, the business model of The Spar is not as viable as it once was.

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Spar

On a white supremacist web forum I noticed Olympia being discussed and The Spar was suggested as a great place for sale.
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Too bad

Gee, I thought you were a restaurant and bar/lounge too. Is that really not viable anymore? I know many places have been closing because of the smoking ban, but I think that what may happen is that eventually the restaurants that were able to stick it out will get all of their business. The first day I drove through this town over 15 years ago, it was the Spar that we went to for breakfast. I found it captivating. It was election day and it was all abuzz with locals talking aobut the election. I don't know what the issues were, but it was one of the reasons we decided to stay here. Too bad you will have to sell and I hope that whoever takes it over will keep it as it is. Great food.
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Sympathy for McWain?

You'll get not much from me. All of the things listed affected many other businesses as well. It seems to me that maybe The Spar's business model wouldn't be viable anywhere, except in a universe where all of the things he mentioned did not exist. It's sad to see a business close, but in this case, I'm confident (hopeful) that someone will buy it, keep it The Spar, and this change will be a good one for downtown. (And the food really isn't anything special as it is now.)
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If it's not The Spar,

If it's not The Spar, Olympia will be talking about this one for years.
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The food isn't fit for a wooden indian

Well, the milkshakes are okay. But other than that, ugh! I love the atmosphere, the hat-hooks on the barstools, and the way it's really easy to pretend it's 1933 when I'm sitting inside the Spar, but the food is not a draw for me. Maybe rather then blaming all those liberal voters who are out to ruin his life, Mr. McWain should have considered that hiring a good cook and then keeping him/her happy would have improved the viability of the Spar as a business.
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So let me get this straight:

So let me get this straight: The people of Washington state drove business away from him, so it's his fault he didn't pick a different business model?
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TFI

You have to admit that if a business goes under it's the fault of the owner/management. rainy has a point: If the food was any good, people would eat there. I didn't see any changes made to the Spar after the ban was passed. Not to the food, atmosphere, etc. A business has to change with the times and be flexible in order to stay open or succeed. Mr McWain, in my opinion, failed at that. That's why he's selling. Not because the voters drove customers away.
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I don't necessarily disagree

I don't necessarily disagree a business has to "change" with the trend, but this wasn't a trend.

This was a business which, as far as we know, was able to survive prior to the smoking ban being introduced. Now that the ban has been introduced, the owner has stated on more than one occasion he will have to sell, in part because of the ban.

I see it like this: It would be like the voting public of Washington state deeming food cooked in high amounts of fat too unhealthy to consume from a business. When McDonadld's went under, whose fault would it be: The voters or McDonald's?

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"...as far as we know..."

We don't know how long The Spar has been in financial dire straits. We don't know what, if any, effect the smoking ban had on their well-being. For all we know, they've been going downhill for a while now, and the smoking ban broke the camel's back.

Or, maybe, they were fine, and the smoking ban killed them. Based on the conversations I've had with employees and other community members, I don't buy that. I believe that years and years of poor decisions led to what we're seeing now.

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And it could go either way.

And it could go either way. I can only draw my conclusion from the information available, which in this case can summed up quite simply:

Before ban = Spar good

After ban = Spar bad

At least Eli Sterling and The Spar's situation will provide good milemarkers for those around town in later years to identify just how long someone has been in Olympia.

EDIT: This doesn't mean I think the ban is right, though. And you still can't completely absolve the ban for putting The Spar out of business by creating an artificial atmosphere. Even if The Spar was borderline financially prior to the ban, if the restaurant could have continued juuuuuuust enough for the owner to justify keeping it open, we wouldn't be discussing any of this. Instead, the good people of Washington state are more than likely the difference between red and black.

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OK

I understand your logic, but I don't buy into it. Everything I've heard (in conversations with people involved) leads me to believe that for a long while they were barely breaking even. I'm sure the smoking ban had a negative effect, but the smoking ban wasn't the only reason they're going under, but one of many reasons. I don't think the Spar could be described as "good" before the smoking ban.
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Considering all we have lost

Considering all we have lost during the last six years, the 21st century has been a real bummer. Losing the Spar would be par for the course, but I, for one, would really miss the place a little bit more than I would most other places.

During the late 1950s and early 1960s, before my little brother was presentable in public, my Dad and I would occasionally have breakfast in the Spar on Saturdays. Just the two of us. I have very vivid memories of watching the guy behind the cashier's counter lowering the big blackboard to chalk in the latest sports scores. And observing old guys in fedoras (back when men wore hats) lighting up their cigars on the eternal flame the Spar had available on a little pedestal. And I loved the neon chrome following the shape of the room. I was with my hero, my Dad, in a place that was fun. It was sort of a guy type of place too. I suppose it was, for a kid of 4-6 years old, a part of the rite of passage into the male world of the Eisenhower-JFK era. My Dad is gone now, but that special bit of memory comes back whenever I enter the Spar.

There are other bits of memory brain cells that get lit up whenever I step through the doors of 114 4th Ave E. -- I learned to drink coffee there. I sat down and forced myself to acquire a taste for Spar coffee before the days of espresso and Starbucks, etc. And as downtown Olympia basically died in the late 1960s, early 1970s, the Spar survived where many others perished. During the 1970s it was strange for me, as a local and TESC student, to watch the Evergreen arbiters of hip declare the Spar a cool place in a retro kind of way. We Evergroovers would hang out there and have the kind of conversations you can only have during the magic college years and the jaded waitresses regarded us with detached amusement.

For true retro, they should've visited the other Spar. Yes, there were two of them. Originally, I'm told, started by the same guy. At least they looked the same from the outside. But once you got inside the other Spar, it was a much rougher, two-fisted, Old West type of place. It was on Heron St. in Aberdeen and I think vanished in the late 70s, early 80s.

But back to the Olympia Spar-- About 1976 I remember eating there during Halloween and seeing the place fill up with pirates. Or eating at the counter near the door of the Highclimber Room with my girlfriend about 1979 and being stranded on a linoleum island when the hired help spilled a giant vat of grease. Or sitting in the Highclimber Room and enjoying watching the Evergreen profs unwind a bit.

But the big-ticket memory was when I met my now-wife-of-almost-24-years in the Spar in Olympia in late 1980 or the first days of 1981. At a window seat. I love the fact that I can still walk into that place and recall all this stuff, and much much much more that I won't bore you with, without having to work too hard. This is due to the fact that the Spar has changed very little compared to most other places around Olympia. Us old-time guys need a place like the Spar as an anchor to help us maintain a sense of place.

During the mid -1980s I was living in Pullman and working at WSU. A co-worker of mine (who I am now happily working with again) told me she was moving to Olympia. My first piece of advice was, "Go visit the Spar."

Sell the Spar, OK. But the new owners need to realize, and I'm speaking here as loyal local, the place is more just a restaurant. It is an institution. Kill the Spar and a bit of the best part of Olympia dies with it.

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I loved the Spar... until I ate there regularly.

I really only go to the Spar (and rarely now) for the stuffed French Toast. That and the open faced Turkey Sandwitch were the only two items I bothered to eat there. I hated the smoke, and often would eat at the Fishbowl simply to avoid the smoke. I figured that the best times to eat at the Spar were 4-5pm (dinner) and early Saturday AM (Breakfast!). That was to avoid the smoke and the crowds who produced it. Somehow Saturday AM seemed less smokey than Sundays AM...

Now that I can go anywhere and eat without smoke (except the Voyeur, which makes onion smoke so thick my eyes watered just last week while eating there) I guess the food is the main draw, and not enough of one to draw me away from the Clubside's Monte Cristo.

I know the Spar is an Oly institution, but anyone who visits the Olympic Club in Centralia has to know that the Spar's lustre is hardly anything to brag about compared to the real thing.

And the food is not that great - trust me. I eat a lot of diner food and I know good diner food. Only three in town qualify, and the Spar is not one of my places.

It would be nice if someone who likes food and focuses on that would buy out the Spar and produce a locally-focused restaurant, say one that only bought ingredients grown within a hundred miles and in-season. I'd be willing to eat lunch or breakfast there if they did...

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Holy cats, Drew just hit it on the head

The McMenamin brothers (who own the Oly club in Centralia and many other fine establishments) need to buy the Spar. And, I mean NEED. It has been far too long that they've skipped over Thurston County, opening bars and restaruants in Lewis and King Co. I for one am sending them a letter with the listing for the Spar.

But, we need to do more than that. We need to draw up a petition:  Mike and Brian McMenamin for Olympia!

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My grandfather was an

My grandfather was an Olympic Club regular. He basically "owned" the pool table nearest the woodstove during the 1930s-1950s, when sawdust covered the floors. I visited that place in the 70s before McMenamins changed it. The original Olympic Club was not a place you would want to take your sweetie out for a fun time. In fact, the sign above the door that reads something like "Female Patronage Not Solicited" was taken seriously when I went there. What is now the dining room was at that time filled with old guys playing cards in a haze of smoke. In the old days, "nice" people didn't walk on that side of Tower Ave.

The current version is very homogenized compared to the original, but at least the place is still with us-- so I can't kick too much. The Spar was nothing like the original Olympic Club, so maybe the McMenamins treatment wouldn't be as much of a stretch.

At least McMenamins, using the Olympic Club as an example, has an appreciation for local history and is using it. That, in my mind, saves them from being a faceless chain.

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Oops, double post
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Burping

I think the site is burping occasionally, I ended up recently with a quadrupled post. Sometimes things aren't loading right with my Firefox browser.
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Well, let's think about this...

You know that the McMennamins are primarily outlets for their own locally brewed beers, which would go head to head with the Fish Brewpub. They probably looked at Oly several times and figured the market for a brewpub was sewn up. Of course, the Spar is available now, so maybe that changes the equation somewhat.

Maybe we should petition them to buy the Public Instruction building facing Sylvester Park. That would be an awesome addition to their stable of cool destination places, right?

Or the McCleary Mansion, if they could convince the locals to rezone it for a bed and breakfast with a pub on the first floor. But the McCleary Mansion is occupied by BIAW, the ones who funded the challenge to gubernatorial voters, which in turn got our Dates of Birth published in the database the Secretary of State releases each month. Maybe BIAW does not want to move.

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Not a zero sum game anymore

I think with the change in culture you're going to have with a non-smoking night life, you can't count on a zero sum game for brew pubs. Plus, McMennamins beer is soooo good, especially considering Trout Stout isn't always on tap at Fish Bowl.
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Wow emmett, I didn't think

Wow emmett, I didn't think of that! It makes great sense for the McMenamin bros to purchase the place. The Kennedy school and Taj are great places in PDX.
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