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Global Warming = Non-Religious Belief?

Submitted by Norm on Thu, 01/11/2007 - 3:02pm.

I'm boggled. I'm not a huge fan of Al's, and I can understand why people wouldn't want to listen to him, but not listening to the science behind it seems a little silly.

http://www.theolympian.com/377/story/60208.html

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Equal time for END TIMES?

Submitted by jlw on Thu, 01/11/2007 - 3:21pm.

Has everyone gone NUTS?

Here's a quote from the article:

"Condoms don't belong in school, and neither does Al Gore. He's not a schoolteacher,'' said Frosty Hardison, a parent of seven who doesn't want the film shown at all.

''The information that's being presented is a very cockeyed view of what the truth is,'' Hardison told the Seattle Post-Intelligencer. ''The Bible says that in the end times everything will burn up, but that perspective isn't in the DVD.''

A cockeyed view of the truth, as opposed to a discussion of the END TIMES?

I'm sorry, but I don't think science and fringe fanatics should get equal time in schools. I'd like to challenge Frosty and others who share his disdain for science to renounce all the comforts of modern technology which science has made possible.

And Frosty apparently

Submitted by Mike on Fri, 01/12/2007 - 9:07am.

And Frosty apparently doesn't know that Al Gore taught university courses in the recent past. He actually is a "school teacher." This is the problem with the right wing crazies (aka middle of the roaders), the facts are fungible to them. They don't get that they are entitled to their opinions, but not entitled to their facts. Facts are subject to fact-checking. Truthiness counts.

Right wing crazies = middle

Submitted by Norm on Fri, 01/12/2007 - 11:48am.

Right wing crazies = middle of the roaders?

You cannot see it, but from this end of the screen I am rolling my eyes at you. It's actually quite funny, I wish you were here to see it. Have a nice day mike.

Hunh?

Submitted by jlw on Fri, 01/12/2007 - 12:59pm.

I'm confused... I think anyone who thinks that information about "the end times" should be presented in public schools as a worthy alternative to scientific facts is definitely an extremist. Did you mean they call themselves "middle of the roaders", Mike?

Mike just has a habit of

Submitted by Norm on Fri, 01/12/2007 - 1:12pm.

Mike just has a habit of poking at me for displaying middle of the road traits when he truly believes that I'm a far-reaching right wing kinda guy.

Obviously the feminist side of me that you might see, Janet, is completely fake.

When you stand next to "Frosty,"...

Submitted by jlw on Fri, 01/12/2007 - 2:24pm.

When you stand next to Frosty "End Times" Hardison, Norm, you look pretty middle of the road to me. I have a feeling, with seven kids, that Frosty probably doesn't support birth control access the way you do, either.

Oh no, I don't stand next to

Submitted by Norm on Fri, 01/12/2007 - 2:59pm.

Oh no, I don't stand next to Frosty. How in the world did I come across that way?

I always felt bad for the kids that had permission slips not to do things at school. Sex ed and Schindler's List are the two that come to mind. I can't imagine how left out they felt.

If Frosty is so darn right, shouldn't he be able to explain to his children how right he is? Even with other viewpoints being presented?

Yes, my guess is that Frosty

Submitted by Mike on Fri, 01/12/2007 - 6:57pm.

Yes, my guess is that Frosty Hardison very much believes that he is a middle of the roader. He probably has some liberal tendencies to prove that he is middle of the road. He is probably in favor of the abolition of slavery and the women's right to vote. Those are both essentially part of the liberal agenda, but the fact that a guy like Frosty has embraced proves he is smack in the middle of the road. He could probably take that political test and show us his score and he would be well to the left of Genghis Khan and Mussolini. And Mussolini was probably just misunderstood and had some liberal tendencies as well.

Happy to help with those

Submitted by Mike on Fri, 01/12/2007 - 6:49pm.

Happy to help with those eye-rolling exercises.

the political spectrum is a

Submitted by Mike on Fri, 01/12/2007 - 7:06pm.

the political spectrum is a red herring. My main point was that Frosty said Al Gore isn't a school teacher. Hmm... let's see, he's been teaching at various universities over the past few years, doesn't that make him a schoolteacher? Fact checking time for Frosty.

Your main point got lost in

Submitted by Norm on Fri, 01/12/2007 - 8:29pm.

Your main point got lost in the rest of the fluff that you threw around.

yep

Submitted by Mike on Fri, 01/12/2007 - 9:10pm.

yep

If it's any consolation, Mike...

Submitted by jlw on Fri, 01/12/2007 - 11:28pm.

... you don't look fluffy when you stand next to Frosty.

I'm not sure I would

Submitted by Norm on Fri, 01/12/2007 - 11:57pm.

I'm not sure I would describe Frosty as "fluffy" unless we are talking about the snowman.

Frosty seems a little.....yeah I can't think of a good term. Help me out here Mike, besides "middle of the road" what's a good term to define Frosty and his though process/behavior?

I guess demented seems a

Submitted by Mike on Sat, 01/13/2007 - 7:46am.

I guess demented seems a little harsh, right?

How about "satirical"?

Submitted by jlw on Sat, 01/13/2007 - 8:42am.

Did that link lead me to the Olympian, or the Onion? A guy named Frosty who's working hard to deny the possibility of global warming? A father of seven who somehow manages to compare Al Gore to condoms? A man of faith who believes that no DVD is fair and balanced without a reference to the End Times?

And sorry, Norm, but I think Frosty distracted us with far more fluff than Mike.

Frosty was the main point JB

Submitted by Norm on Sat, 01/13/2007 - 11:55am.

Frosty was the main point JB he wasn't the distraction, he was the "attraction".

Yes, it almost seems like satire. Which is why I posted it. I read it and had to start over again because I'm sure I misread something.

As for Gore, as much as I don't like his politics, or his delivery, the man is incredibly smart. Again, I don't agree with him on everything, but I'm sure when I catch the video I will agree with it.

Then again, some of the threads I've read here lead me to believe it doesn't make a F&%$ing difference what we do, it's already too late. SO we may as well go out, have margaritas and mexican food every friday, buy that really expensive car we always wanted (probably won't live long enough to pay it off) and enjoy the heck out of life.

What we do or don't do says

Submitted by Mike on Sun, 01/14/2007 - 1:15pm.

What we do or don't do says something about who we are. Mitigating damage by relatively painless and even cost-effective lifestyle changes like no more incandescent bulbs, only compact fluorescents is a good place to start.

Well I must be a good guy

Submitted by Norm on Sun, 01/14/2007 - 1:50pm.

Well I must be a good guy then, I've bought 2 flourescent bulbs in the last week to go with the one I have in my bedroom lamp. So now it's 3 flourescent vs 4 regular.

Oops

Submitted by jlw on Sat, 01/13/2007 - 8:43am.

Cat jumped on the keyboard.

Down, kitty!

Submitted by jlw on Sat, 01/13/2007 - 8:44am.

What has gotten into her this morning?

Does anyone...

Submitted by jlw on Sat, 01/13/2007 - 8:44am.

... know of a good pet psychiatrist?

Never mind

Submitted by jlw on Sat, 01/13/2007 - 8:50am.

Fluffy's behaving again. Nothing to see here folks.

A little harsh

Submitted by Norm on Sat, 01/13/2007 - 11:47am.

but I'm not sure I could call it misplaced. Faith is one thing, denial in the world around you is taking faith to another level.

I hope that all school

Submitted by Robert Whitlock on Thu, 01/11/2007 - 10:38pm.

I hope that all school children get to view Al's movie. If nothing else, it will serve as a starting point for their own investigations into climate science and global warming.

We are going to need a motivated citizenry in order to tackle the climate challenges that confront us.

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