Taser Effectiveness

So Norm, I'm curious why don't you want to use a taser? It is a great tool, very effective, although not perfect. And it reduces injuries to both suspects and officers. Without a taser, then an officer is just that much closer to having to use fists, or a baton, even a gun.

Secondly, that is another example where deadly force would be authorized. Obviously, the victims were not police officers, but likely security guards, but if it was a cop being assaulted like that, all bets are off.

"The strongest reason to retain the right to keep and bear arms is to protect against tyranny in government." Thomas Jefferson.

Quote: "Obviously, the

Submitted by Norm on Sun, 11/12/2006 - 1:26pm.

Quote: "Obviously, the victims were not police officers, but likely security guards"

Worse, they were UK cops. Pepper spray and a club

The reason I would rather not have to use one is all of the negative hype surrounding them. I think they are a great tool, more than likely if I pursue a career in this field I will use one, when I do I will be scrutinized like every other officer who uses one as opposed to getting in a fistfight with the suspect, or having to use lethal force. It's the aftermath that bothers me. Amnesty International and police chiefs ( politicians ) coming after me for using something to lessen violence just doesn't excite me.

Thanks for posting Norm

Submitted by OlyCop on Sun, 11/12/2006 - 2:20pm.

I think discussion on this kind of thing is a good thing. As far as your concerns, all cops share your concern to a certain extent. If you stay within policy, and industry standards, you have little to worry about.

If you seek to make AI happy, it likely won't happen until your great grandchild is a cop and can wave a magic wand and have the bad guy immediately teleported to jail.

Also, my previous comments here and on other threads about deadly force issues is for the education of those here. I know many that post and lurk here are activists. Many have protested before and likely will again. That's fine, I have done some protesting of my own in both my recent and distant past, it's your right. But my posts here are to help you understand what you might think is not a big deal, could very well get you seriously hurt or killed.

If you try to disarm a cop, take his baton, taser, pepper spray, gun or any other tool/weapon he is using or has in his control, can get you hurt or killed. If you decide to do a beat down on an officer, that can get you seriously hurt or killed. And depending on the circumstances, threats could get you hurt badly or killed.

"The strongest reason to retain the right to keep and bear arms is to protect against tyranny in government." Thomas Jefferson.

The second video is why I

Submitted by The Fire Inside on Sun, 11/12/2006 - 4:46pm.

The second video is why I fully support law enforcement personnel acting within the boundaries of "fighting for your life" in order to executive the functions society has designated for them.

It's ridiculous to say to an individual, "Enforce these laws for us. By the way, most people are going to hate the laws. I know, you don't write them, but it's your job to enforce them. By the way, if you do anything in the defense of yourself or your co-workers you'll be subject to more intense questioning and accountability than any other government employee."

Welcome to

Submitted by OlyCop on Sun, 11/12/2006 - 5:05pm.

police work.

"Everyone thinks of changing the world, but no one thinks of changing himself." Leo Tolstoy.

I don't know why I typed

Submitted by The Fire Inside on Sun, 11/12/2006 - 7:22pm.

I don't know why I typed "executive" in the original response. It should read "execute."

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