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Submitted by Norm on Wed, 12/06/2006 - 4:28pm.

I just thought some folks may like to read this story off of msnbc

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/16077185/?from=ET

It even has a little uterine diagram explaining how it works.

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Wow, Norm - I didn't think I

Wow, Norm - I didn't think I would ever hear the phrase "little uterine diagram" on your blog...especially with you being such a Nipplephobe!  =)   

"She grew on him like she was a colony of E.Coli, and he was room-temperature Canadian beef."

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Zing

When we do live vaudeville OlyBlog shows to raise funds for OlyBlog, I vote that OperaGirl and Norm be the masters of ceremonies, because of their excellent snappy patter.

Reminds me of The Sonny & Cher Comedy Hour, they did lots of zingers and one liners.

Also "nipplephobe" needs to be added to that OlyBlog glossary that I'll maybe compile someday.
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I'm afraid to ask...which

I'm afraid to ask...which one of us is which in this comparison?
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Uh oh

I hadn't even sorted that out, good question. I think Sonny was often the straight man, joke wise, so that would be....err...you Norm. Plus OperaGirl is obviously a Diva, as is Cher.

But really, I think you two are long lost cousins. Or siblings.
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Well, I made it to the OCS

Well, I made it to the OCS concert tonight at N. Thurston. It was excellent. I encourage you all to go for the music and the rep from PiPE told a great story, they sound like a wonderful organization.

 Che....um Operagirl was there and played the diva part well....Sonny was nowhere to be found.

 Long lost siblings? Cousins? I'm not sure how to take that.

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Ha ha"She grew on him like

Ha ha

"She grew on him like she was a colony of E.Coli, and he was room-temperature Canadian beef."

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Hmmm

more evidence for Janet B.

"Everyone thinks of changing the world, but no one thinks of changing himself." Leo Tolstoy.

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And hmmm

Again I must exhort you to put on your reading glasses so you can detect the word "may" before the words "prevent implantation." 
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So

the only evidence that Janet accepts is evidence that is definite, positive, or 100% I guess.

In Janet's world, very few people would ever be found guilty and most theories would be out.

"Everyone thinks of changing the world, but no one thinks of changing himself." Leo Tolstoy.

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Where are you getting this?

You haven't shown us ANY evidence.  0% is not 100%, it's true.  Show me something that suggests Plan B does prevent implantation, and I'll reconsider.   I don't consider the word "may" evidence.  Sorry, but my standards for scientific proof are a little more rigorous than that.
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Not for evidence

I just find it interesting that we are barking back and forth at each other and here they have it on cnn. The article hints that it's not just Olympia, small spats are happening all over the place.
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Further

it seems we are being sold a bill of goods in regards to emergency contraception reducing the number of abortions.  The studies that have been done don't reflect that fact, even when the product is readily available and even free. 

And Enpen's claim that the pharmacist's are violating their Oath by not giving out Plan B as that is the best thing for the patient seems to be false.  Like I figured, the health risks appear to be significant, even when compared to the Pill. 

"Everyone thinks of changing the world, but no one thinks of changing himself." Leo Tolstoy.

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Significant health risks?

What are you talking about?  This is a very safe medication.  Every drug has possible side effects and contraindications.  There are relatively few in the case of the morning after pill. 

As for whether it reduces the abortion rate or not, the effects of ready access in the United States have yet to be seen.  There is no question that it does obviate the need for abortion in some cases, which is a good thing.  The abortion rate is affected by a number of factors; an absence of a clear correlation between having EC available and a change in the abortion rate doesn't mean that having EC available isn't a benefit to women.

Something else which should be taken into consideration is that the morning-after-pill is very often taken in cases when no pregnancy would have resulted even if it hadn't been used.  Not every act of unprotected sex results in pregnancy.  Furthermore, there are plenty of women who are so anxious to prevent an unintended pregnancy that they will use the morning-after-pill even when they probably don't really need to.  For instance, a woman might fear her diaphragm slipped out of place and may not have protected her adequately, even though it's probably a "safe" time of the month.  She might take the morning-after-pill just to be sure she doesn't get pregnant. If I were a rape victim, I would take the morning-after-pill just to be sure, regardless of where I was in my cycle. 

Back before EC was available, if a condom broke, even if it wasn't a "dangerous" time, a woman (and maybe even the man involved, as well) would have to worry for two or three weeks.  This isn't fun -- take my word for it.  I believe that emergency contraception should be available to women regardless of its impact on the overall abortion rate.  It WILL prevent individual abortions, and it will promote peace of mind for women who want to avoid unwanted pregnancy. 

I have a couple of questions for you, Olycop.  Do you think anyone should be able to use emergency contraception, ever?  Do you think people should be able to use birth control, ever? 






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