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Submitted by oldtimeydave on Fri, 01/19/2007 - 1:32pm.
Well hot off the AP press is a fairly nice article about the high end home espresso machine market. http://www.theolympian.com/105/story/61287.html
» What the Olympian missed is the fact that one of the most renowned and respected resources and companies dealing in such goods is right here in Oly. EspressoParts.com, Espresso Parts, Espresso Parts NW, EPNW, is where I work full time. However you look it up and you'll find the name plastered in all over the internet, barista blogs, and top home coffee user forums. Forums like Coffeegeek.com Home-barista.com and more. I work at Espresso Parts full time as webmaster and graphic designer. Although our forte is products, equipment parts and services for the professional coffee community at large, this is precisely what high end home users crave -- High end equipment and goods. Espresso Parts also either stocks and/or sells a number of high end espresso machines geared for the home market - none of the $69 garbage at Linens and Things or wherever. In fact I just sent a few images of some home and pro and home equipment and tools to Portland Monthly yesterday. They can find us yet the Olympian can't drive down the street? I'm not surprised and I know many of you won't be either. We need a community paper that actually cherishes and supports the local community, and maybe does a little more than regurgitate AP fluff our way.
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Submitted by enpen on Fri, 01/19/2007 - 1:37pm."We need a community paper that actually cherishes and supports the local community, and maybe does a little more than regurgitate AP fluff our way."
I think your post here is an excellent turn in that direction.
"Anybody who doesn't know that politics is crime has got a few screws loose."
Well I think Olyblog is an
Submitted by oldtimeydave on Fri, 01/19/2007 - 1:44pm.You have a choice in what
Submitted by Ehver Green on Fri, 01/19/2007 - 1:44pm.You have a choice in what you read. I think you are letting personal pride get in the way of a non-issue. The Olympian may be our local paper, but they are part of a bigger corporation that continues to cut staffs and papers all over the country to save $$$.
huh?
Submitted by enpen on Fri, 01/19/2007 - 8:54pm."The Olympian may be our local paper, but they are part of a bigger corporation that continues to cut staffs and papers all over the country to save $$$."
Pardon my ignorance, but exactly what aspect of your statement is a non-issue (keeping in mind that oldtimedavey's complaint regards a symptom of this problem)?
"Anybody who doesn't know that politics is crime has got a few screws loose."
Uh, McClatchy hasn't been
Submitted by Aaron Mason on Tue, 01/23/2007 - 3:16pm.Uh, McClatchy hasn't been cutting jobs. At all. Nobody has been cut from The Olympian or anywhere else that I know of since the acquisition.
Also, the original poster misses an important point: it's an AP article. We can't edit AP articles. Since we can't edit the article, we can't mention a local business.
Now I didn't say edit the
Submitted by oldtimeydave on Tue, 01/23/2007 - 3:23pm.I can imagine someone that
Submitted by oldtimeydave on Fri, 01/19/2007 - 1:50pm.I should add that it has nothing to do with my pride... We are what we are regardless of what they do and don't write.
How does what I do play into
Submitted by Ehver Green on Fri, 01/19/2007 - 2:18pm.How does what I do play into my comment? Running a for-profit business is about, well, making money. Ask the owners where you work why they are in business.
For 50 cents a day, The Olympian has value. For free online it has even more value.
I hate to say it, but maybe everyone who wants to be uber-local (to the point they can't for the life of them understand that the earth is a globe) shoud build a big ass bubble somewhere and all live together and never interact with anybody outside of your bubble. You know, a big clique. The complaining never ends.
a double huh?
Submitted by enpen on Fri, 01/19/2007 - 9:28pm."For 50 cents a day, The Olympian has value. For free online it has even more value."
If you'd like, I can point you in the direction of multiple RSS aggregators which provide far better value than The Olympian for gleaning knowledge about the world-at-large. I don't believe anyone ever expressed an interest in being ignorant about yonder world. Or are you just looking to be belittle for the sake of it?
"Anybody who doesn't know that politics is crime has got a few screws loose."
If you aren't into
Submitted by oldtimeydave on Fri, 01/19/2007 - 2:23pm.I'm in to localism, but I'm
Submitted by Ehver Green on Fri, 01/19/2007 - 2:30pm.huh??
Submitted by Rob Richards on Fri, 01/19/2007 - 2:32pm."Which makes sense?!?! Don't comment to your main source of information in Thruston(sic)County? No wonder he's not running again."
In one case you blast oldtimeydave because he has the freedom not to read the Olympian, in the other, you blast TJ Johnson because he used that freedom to not comment in the Olympian. How do you reconcile this double standard?
Blast? No, I simply stated
Submitted by Ehver Green on Fri, 01/19/2007 - 2:38pm.Blast? No, I simply stated if you don't care for the information source, don't read it. No blasting there.
TJ choosing not to comment, like as in "No comment," is his choice. He's free to associate with people he'd like.
Thanks for pointing out my mistake in spelling Thurston incorrectly. Your corretion makes me feel loved.
Perhaps blast was the wrong
Submitted by Rob Richards on Fri, 01/19/2007 - 2:48pm.You still haven't really answered my question, but you don't have to.
As far as the (sic), no offense meant at all, it's what you're trained to do as a journalist when quoting someone's written words and you come across a misspelling. A lot of that stuff has stuck with me.
“One man scorned and covered with scars still strove with his last ounce of courage to reach the unreachable stars; and the world was better for this.
I fail to see the double
Submitted by Ehver Green on Fri, 01/19/2007 - 2:59pm.I fail to see the double standard. Dave blogs a complaint about The Olympian and their lack of covering his local business in an AP article they ran about Espresso makers. I said then don't read it. Pretty simple stuff.
TJ loathes The Olympian and what it stands for so he chose not to comment. I said, "What?" Just tell them already. They'll find out sooner or later. They aren't asking for you to comment on a position or vote - just whether or not you plan to run. If he were running I'm certain he would have made a comment and it would have been published for all to read.
Analyze This...
Submitted by oldtimeydave on Fri, 01/19/2007 - 4:46pm.Is there a way to filter out certain users posts?
What does desiring more from
Submitted by oldtimeydave on Fri, 01/19/2007 - 2:40pm.The same as my post and
Submitted by Ehver Green on Fri, 01/19/2007 - 2:43pm.The same as my post and being a stated way because of where I work.
Say what?
Submitted by oldtimeydave on Fri, 01/19/2007 - 2:48pm.Don't worry about it, it
Submitted by Ehver Green on Fri, 01/19/2007 - 3:02pm.had it been a legible
Submitted by oldtimeydave on Fri, 01/19/2007 - 3:11pm.For me, nothing beats one of these
Submitted by Crenshaw Sepulveda on Fri, 01/19/2007 - 2:47pm.Less then $30 bucks and millions of Italians can't be wrong.
"I would make it impossible for the covetous and avaricious to utterly impoverish the poor. The rich can take care of themselves."
^@^
Got the same one...
Submitted by Ehver Green on Fri, 01/19/2007 - 3:00pm.In fact.. Thats one of the
Submitted by oldtimeydave on Fri, 01/19/2007 - 2:49pm.maybe it is just me
Submitted by Crenshaw Sepulveda on Fri, 01/19/2007 - 2:57pm."I would make it impossible for the covetous and avaricious to utterly impoverish the poor. The rich can take care of themselves."
^@^
word
Submitted by Rob Richards on Fri, 01/19/2007 - 2:59pm.Ditto... Nicely put
Submitted by oldtimeydave on Fri, 01/19/2007 - 3:04pm.My guess would be that it's
Submitted by Norm on Fri, 01/19/2007 - 5:23pm.My guess would be that it's not that important to them. Or that they feel it's not that important to their readers. Maybe you should write them a letter and see what kind of response you get.
Personally, I'm not that big of a coffee drinker. I read the story in the Olympian, but could honestly care less about local stores that sell to the home espresso folks. Maybe the editor feels this way also.
Could be... But I suspect if
Submitted by oldtimeydave on Fri, 01/19/2007 - 5:31pm.Maybe advertising too. Maybe
Submitted by Norm on Fri, 01/19/2007 - 8:06pm.Thats just it... They should
Submitted by oldtimeydave on Sat, 01/20/2007 - 9:28am.Batdorf sells some really nice coffee brewing equipment and great grinders as well. Plug the local coffee roasters too. We have 3 with national recognition and it doesn't take a whole lot of effort to find them.
The Olympian and commerce
Submitted by Crenshaw Sepulveda on Sat, 01/20/2007 - 9:44am."I would make it impossible for the covetous and avaricious to utterly impoverish the poor. The rich can take care of themselves."
^@^
national budgets
Submitted by enpen on Fri, 01/19/2007 - 8:22pm."My guess would be that it's not that important to them. Or that they feel it's not that important to their readers."
Dan Gilmore addresses this very issue in We the Media (local papers not covering local issues) and points to media centralization and the accompanying share holder profit growth demands as the culprit(s). The results are apparent in a reduced reporter workforce and an increasing reliance on syndicated press releases (e.g. the AP). I would be willing to bet the editors of The Olympian know very well just how dedicated of a coffee community it serves and that's why they decided to pay for this particular AP story. Which takes us back to oldtimeydave's initial story and The Olympian's failure to send a reporter into it's community. We can be passive media consumers and just take what they give us, or we can be proactive and actually demand that "local" media represent "local" citizens and businesses. Of course, as I'm typing this in a comment thread on a hyperlocal Web site, I'm probably preaching to the choir more than anything else...
"Anybody who doesn't know that politics is crime has got a few screws loose."
=)
Submitted by Norm on Fri, 01/19/2007 - 8:31pm.I'm probably preaching to the choir more than anything else...