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Submitted by Rob Richards on Thu, 12/28/2006 - 2:55pm.
Don't talk about religion or politics.
» Is this a rule we want to adopt? It seems like it may limit some of our conversations, yet it may help us be more solution based, which I think is, at least it's mine, our over-arching goal. Could we draft a rule that limits religious or political discussions to the hyperlocal realm? Is it possible to still have these discussions but limit them to fact not feeling? I'm not sure what the answer is, I do think that more involved moderators would help.
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Definitely not
Submitted by OlyCop on Thu, 12/28/2006 - 6:48pm.religion. Politics is more difficult to have a prohibition on.
"If everyone is thinking alike, someone isn't thinking." General George S. Patton Jr.
Making room for more voices
Submitted by listening on Thu, 12/28/2006 - 7:08pm.What are you thinking about?
Submitted by Rick on Thu, 12/28/2006 - 7:10pm.Like 24 hours, or a certain number of post per person? Please say more about your idea.
When you think of the long and gloomy history of man, you will find more hideous crimes have been committed in the name of obedience than have ever been committed in the name of rebellion. -C.P. Snow
Limiting number of posts discussion
Submitted by listening on Thu, 12/28/2006 - 8:14pm.The idea of limiting what people post (i.e. no religion or politics) seems to be censoring the interesting conversation and events that get posted here. Rather, having a set daily limit for comments makes more sense. It makes us more thoughtful about what we write for that day.
Any way to expire a blog
Submitted by Ehver Green on Thu, 12/28/2006 - 8:24pm.yeah,
Submitted by Rob Richards on Thu, 12/28/2006 - 7:25pm.To a worm in horseradish, the world is horseradish.
Im really confused..
Submitted by bubbaz (not verified) on Thu, 12/28/2006 - 7:35pm.Why would we want to consider limiting the time or number of posts in any way?
Are we running out of room or something?
Could some of the moderators please explain what is wrong with Olyblog the way it is now?
Everybody loves Olyblog..
We must be doing something right..
read back over a few of the
Submitted by Rob Richards on Thu, 12/28/2006 - 7:47pm.To a worm in horseradish, the world is horseradish.
I guess what I am saying..
Submitted by bubbaz (not verified) on Thu, 12/28/2006 - 7:57pm.We are dealing with the Internet here..
Empty propaganda should be called on..
Abusive behaviour (trolls, bigots, etc..) should be called on..
But to limit the actual number or length of posts or the topics themselves (local v. national, etc..)?
I guess I just dont see the point, IMHO..
A night full of talking that
Submitted by olyrickm on Fri, 12/29/2006 - 12:14pm.Ridiculous
Submitted by chaney on Sat, 12/30/2006 - 4:17pm.Hmmm.
Submitted by DrewHendricks on Sat, 12/30/2006 - 8:20pm.Listening: "People aren't interested in posting at Olyblog because they feel that the same people are always commenting, no matter what is posted. I have my own apprehensions about what I post because individuals are always going to respond. The people who don't like Olyblog for this reason are not going to be putting their two cents out there because they simply aren't interested in having dominants on the blog constantly berating them."
Ouch. Debate is not "berate." Why is it taken for such?
The rules (if we need any more) need to focus on how people use rhetoric, not whether they use it or about which topic they use it. For instance, the prime directive of "Play the ball, not the person" is appropriate. And the corollary to that, "Comment on the topic original to the thread rather than derailing the discussion" might need adoption.
I've seen discussions shut down on the issue of (for instance) female on male rape when the post was originally about Plan B protests and store owner stock choices / property rights. That is what is known as Hijacking. And it did shut down posts by particular people. Myself included. But that is a far cry from a call for a topic ban.
I'll peek around at the longer threads and try to see what I see, but meanwhile I'd like some feedback. What I've read so far tells me more about how people feel about disagreement than it does about how the site is fostering or limiting the dissemination of ideas and debate.
I think two possible ways to
Submitted by Ehver Green on Sun, 12/31/2006 - 3:42am.I think two possible ways to end the hijacking and rhetoric is through comment expiration and bringing topics back on track. I think any of the appointed docents should have the authority to suggest when a topic is not longer headed in the intended direction and ultimately expire further comment, if necessary. There's no reason a debate should become ap full-blown argument and continue down the toilet. It's usually pretty obvious to identify such threads. Not sure if this is technically a possibility, but it could simply be something we all agree to.
Outside of comment supression, it would be a nice feature if the thread owner/blogger had the ability to freeze a thread. Some type of expiration flag that sets the thread as read-only. I don't see this as censorship. I see it as a way to further positive conversation. Just my initial thoughts after reading the current concerns over the last few days.
I think that eg is on track
Submitted by Rob Richards on Sun, 12/31/2006 - 12:34pm.To a worm in horseradish, the world is horseradish.