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Submitted by Rob Richards on Mon, 03/12/2007 - 9:11pm.
A co-worker of mine and I decided this would be fun. I hope people join in.

Doug Mah is an Olympia City Council member. He is running for mayor. I don't want him to be mayor. I can honestly say that I'd rather have Bush as president for four more years than Doug Mah as mayor.

That aside, what qualifies a person to be mayor? What do you look for in a mayor?

One thing I look for is personality. A mayor must be personable. I think a mayor should also spend time downtown. Among the people. Shaking hands, hanging out, shopping, eating, etc.

Over the years I've seen Mayor Foutch out and about quite often, taking part in a wide variety of what downtown has to offer. I've seen Doug Mah once. Not that I've been watching out for him, but still, only once.

So, Olybloggers, your mission, if you choose to accept it, is this: Find Doug Mah. Where does he hang out? Eat? Shop? Play? If we really want to know the kind of person he is, these things are key. Is he a Wal-Mart shopper? Starbucks drinker? I don't know. But I want to.

So snap a picture of Doug Mah in his natural environment. I'm not talking about a photo op or a candidate's forum, I'm talking about Doug Mah hanging out. Doing his thing, in public.

Be sure to tell us where you saw him, where he spends his money will tell us a lot about him.

There will be prizes, to be announced later.

GO US!!!

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LOL

I love it!
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No losing track!

Thanks for the self promotion Norm and Meta.. but the important idea of this post is to make folks aware that Doug Mah does not actually follow suit as an Olympian citizen!!
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Que?I wasn't promoting self.

Que?

I wasn't promoting self.

Although I could come up with a good slogan, "A Vote for Norm is a Vote for Sustainability!". I like that one, and I think it sounds much better than, "Happy Days are Here Again."

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Wrong.  Doug Mah does not

Wrong.  Doug Mah does not follow suit as an Olympian like YOU.  Give the the man some credit.  I have an idea for all of you - instead of tearing down a candidate you wouldn't vote for, why not try building up a candidate you would vote for?
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Yeah, what he said.

The fact is, if Doug wins, he will be Mayor. If he loses, he will be a council member for at least another two years. I think it's a good idea to point out ways that you think that members of the council could be doing a better job (like coming downtown more often), but this thread has the potential to degenerate into an unproductive candidate-bashing session.
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Which is exactly what it

Which is exactly what it should not be.  I'm not sure what about coming downtown more often tells us about a candidate.  I live on the Westside and do most of my shopping up on this side of town.  Why?  Obvious...  Downtown may not be Doug's cup of tea but that doesn't mean that he cares any less about Olympia as a whole.  I think it is often lost on us that Olympia is much more than downtown.
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there may be more to Olympia than downtown

but face it, it is the downtown that pretty much distinguishes Olympia from any other town.  Without the downtown Olympia would be Lacey, or Federal Way.  Olympia has many unique features, to be sure, but the downtown is her jewel.  I guess you have to look at Olympia's downtown from the eyes of an outsider to really appreciate how special it is.  Why Doug Mah doesn't go downtown really doesn't concern me, it may not be his particular cup of tea.  I can only hope that if he becomes mayor he doesn't let our downtown become another Disneyland Main Street.  It would also be sad to see our downtown become one of those resort boutique downtowns that cater strictly to money.  A person that recognizes the special nature of Olympia's downtown would surely get my vote.  Keeping downtown special will not be easy.  It will be difficult to keep it special because corporate interests have their eyes on downtown and wish to recreate it in their own images.  This is an image we will not recognize and will not want anything to do with.  In the end, anything that is done to change downtown, if it involves corporate interests, will surely seal her doom.

"I would make it impossible for the covetous and avaricious to utterly impoverish the poor. The rich can take care of themselves."
^@^
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I appreciate our downtown on

I appreciate our downtown on most days.  I have a handful of stores that I frequent and a place to eat or two.  I agree with all that you said minus the vote statement.

Mah has been on the council for a while now.  It has been said before -- Mayor is simply a figurehead, one of seven.  Not one above seven.

McMenamins?  Not corporate?

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McMenamins

It is without a doubt McMenamins is a unique corporation.  On the surface one could say they they really are not so different than Red Robin or Appleby's.  Indeed, they are clones of Red Robin's and Appleby's with the exception that they make certain each location they open is unique and very local.  They employ historians and local artists to make certain each physical plant becomes a part of the community.  This is not a bad thing but in the end we have a very localized version of Red Robin.  A Denny's could do the same thing, find a nice historical location, gussy it up, and watch the masses flock in.  In the end you still have a Denny's with its marching orders coming from a corporate office in some far away location.  I'd take a McMenamins operation over a Red Robin any day of the week, but let us not delude ourselves that McMenamins is really of our community.

I've seen recently two corporate stores go down the tubes in downtown Olympia, those would be the Quiznos and the Taco Del Mar.  Both attempted to use fairly historical buildings as their physical plants.  Maybe the Quiznos was less successful in their  blending.  The bottom line is that Olympia had not interest in such places to eat.  The investors lost money and sneaked  away in the dead of night.

If we are to believe that the McMenamins operation will "save" Olympia we really have to ask the question, do they actually serve Olympia?  My guess is that they are greasing the skids for other smart corporate operators to come into downtown and eventually turn it into a boutique downtown for the tourists and visitors.  It will be a downtown that the typical lover of downtown will eschew and that could very well be the intent of it all.  We keep the old concept of downtown as a unique place but replace it with a zombie downtown, all the while ruining it for those that have supported downtown all these years.

People would like to believe that downtown is about buildings and businesses, and to some degree they are right.  The truth is that downtown is about people.  All kinds of people with all kinds of uses of downtown.  The more kinds of people you have in a downtown, the more successful the downtown is.  Build the zombie downtown and you will only attracted a limited variety of people and the diversity that gives the downtown its charm and character will be lost forever.  McMenamins can not stop this, but they can by their very presense insure it happens.

Tacoma would do anything for McMenamins to come in and convert a building into one of their operatons, indeed it will probably happen.  The talk is that they will take over the old Elks building above Tacoma's water front.  Plenty of room for all the McMenamins amenities and a way historical and beloved building.  Tacoma is different about their intentions for its downtown than Olympia.  In Tacoma they will openly admit they want a zombie downtown and they are well aware that a McMenamins will accomplish this.

I have enjoyed the McMenamins operation, the Olympic Club, in Centralia.  It is popular with the locals and the visitors and has been the envy of Olympia for quite some time.  Good beer, good food, a movie a burger and a beer for $10 on Wed. night.  They do a lot of things right, no question about it.  What worries me about them is the wrong they will allow to occur.

"I would make it impossible for the covetous and avaricious to utterly impoverish the poor. The rich can take care of themselves."
^@^
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Good job EG. Some folks on

Good job EG. Some folks on this board forget that Olympia isn't strictly comprised of the downtown and it's crowd.
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*ahem!*

Anyone can feel free to take pictures of me, too. Just be sure to get me from my good side!
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Oh Meta, we know what you

Oh Meta, we know what you are all about. That's why we all love you. We'll take the pictures, but you are no mystery Wink
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Norm, I think you and I both

Norm, I think you and I both know where I stand on some *key* issues. Don't pretend like it's all cake and ice cream and no gun control. Innocent
(ps, we missed you tonight!)
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Oh yeah?

Were many folks though? Obviously you are the most important but after the tune strangler exit I thought we were going to look for a new place. Either that or I just wasn't invited any longer.

Hey, if you want to try and enact a local gun control law, more power to ya. As for the cake and ice cream, where do I sign?

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