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Submitted by The Fire Inside on Wed, 10/18/2006 - 12:32pm.

Some would cite this as further evidence that the American male is being further feminized while others might say it's simply part of the nanny culture we live in.

CNN: School bans tag, other chase games

Officials at an elementary school south of Boston have banned kids from playing tag, touch football and any other unsupervised chase game during recess for fear they'll get hurt and hold the school liable.

Recess is "a time when accidents can happen," said Willett Elementary School Principal Gaylene Heppe, who approved the ban.

There's even a semi-local angle.

Elementary schools in Cheyenne, Wyoming, and Spokane, Washington, also recently banned tag during recess.

I looked for more articles on the subject and found this posted on Michelle Malkin's blog:

Massachussetts–the state that once spawned enough tax rebels to shuck off the crown and create a whole new country is now home to a school that has banned tag.

You can vote at KIRO's website on whether you think tag should be allowed during recess. Internet polling is far from scientific (though interesting) so take a heavy dose of salt, but the vote is currently running 95-5 in favor of allowing tag (and I presume other contact activities).

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WTF??

"Some would cite this as further evidence that the American male is being further feminized.."

WTF??
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Ya I don't get that either...

Ya I don't get that either...
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Aside from me using

Aside from me using "further" twice in the same sentence, there are a number of people who feel American men just aren't men and would argue it is because we live in an overly-maternalistic culture.

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I'm not going to get into it

I'm not going to get into it here, but I can see your point and have made it on several occasions.
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Absurd

This has nothing to do with maternalism or the "feminization" of men, TFI.  The article mentioned nothing about angry moms demanding safe playground practices.  In fact, I imagine that a lot of the moms at that school are angry that their kids won't be getting any decent exercise during recess.

This issue is clearly about liability, a sue happy culture, and administrators who are unwilling to take risks for the sake of a healthy, happy, and fun playground.  Insurance companies run our lives in ways that we would NEVER allow a government to.

Turning this issue into one of "maternalism" not only misses the point, but comes dangerously close to appearing anti-feminist.
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insurance everywhere

It's horrible.  It's everywhere.  Taking my kid to the doctor is a lesson in "if we don't give'em EVERYTHING then they can sue us later" thinking.  My daughter had a fever for 3 days, got up over 101 so I took her in.  In the space of 10 minutes they pushed the idea of a bladder infection, gave her infant tylenol for her fever and a prescription for ear drops "in case."  They were talking about having me take her to the Hospital for a catheter if the first urine collection bag didn't work (which they put on incorrectly!).

And don't even get me on what they tried to push on us at her birth.  For anyone that doesn't know and is lookin' to have a kid, get a Doula!

"If you are a dreamer, come in. If you are a dreamer, a wisher, a liar, a hope-er, a pray-er, a magic bean buyer. If you're a pretender, come sit by my fire, for we have some flax-golden tales to spin. Come in! Come in!"
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Lawyers, Judges, and Juries

I'd blame lawyers who actually take these lawsuits up and justices and juries who actually award compensation before I fault insurance companies for simply covering their losses.

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what a joke

Um, no.  You've fallen for the Insurance Industry propaganda.  Remind me again, how did it become law that we have to purchase auto insurance?  Who paid for that lobbying?

"If you are a dreamer, come in. If you are a dreamer, a wisher, a liar, a hope-er, a pray-er, a magic bean buyer. If you're a pretender, come sit by my fire, for we have some flax-golden tales to spin. Come in! Come in!"
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I think we can blame both at

I think we can blame both at this point. If any of you have ever had to deal with an insurance company you know the amount of crap you have to wade through, and lets face it, attorney's who deal with these types of cases ( for the most part ) are scum. Juries and judges deal with what is dealt to them, I don't hold them responsible.....except OJ's jury, they all need a reality check.
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Forgetting something?

What about the people who sue? All those evil, malicious, spiteful, wicked trial lawyers would be out of jobs if people stopped sueing (sp?) eachother at the drop of a hat.
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That's true also. Damn we

That's true also. Damn we live in a country with so few morals.
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How do you think auto

How do you think auto insurance should be handled?

I don't think having a mandatory insurance law is necessary, but if you're on the road and hit someone without insurance, there should be no "Get Out of Jail Free" card. You're going to be paying for damages and injuries out of your own wallet.

As a personal example, when I was involved in a car accident which required my insurance company to payout to the individual for damage to their vehicle and claimed injuries, the amount was about $10,000 (although as a sidenote, the other individual was in more legal trouble than I was. They were cited for not having either insurance or a valid driver's license while I was cited for a failure to yield).

Now maybe I'm wrong, but it would seem to me that those in the lower income levels are better off paying a standard insurance rate than rolling the dice and hoping the bulk of their paycheck isn't going to someone else for the next X-period of time.

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I couldn't imagine. I know

I couldn't imagine. I know that after my accident ( other person failed to yield ) I was awarded for my car 11,000 plus "pain and suffering" that added up to 1,500. You should have seen how the insurance company scrambled, because both of us had the same insurance company. It was a weird process altogether. I had a 1,000 dollar deductible right off the bat though and found myself scrambling too.
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a number of problems here

It's situations like these that expose a number of problems.
  1. I don't think credit is a good idea.  Yes it's been driving the booming U.S. economy for years and years, but one positive does not a good thing make.  House prices would tumble to their real world "value" with no credit, we wouldn't have so much made-to-break shit filling up our land fills and there'd be far fewer cars on the road.
  2. The vast majority of people pay far more in insurance premiums than ever realize through accident or injury.  Insurance is a classic example of driving people through fear (I'm not claiming to be immune).
  3. I agree, no get out of jail free card.  There are methods by which folks can have their wages garnished.  And if you had the misfortune of being hit by a person that never sees a wage, that sucks.
  4. There should be universal health care so that the medical bills of such things can't be used to scare us into submission.  Of course, that aspect takes on the health insurance giant who'll lobby hard to keep us paying them instead of the government for our health and well being.
The insurance industry sucks

"If you are a dreamer, come in. If you are a dreamer, a wisher, a liar, a hope-er, a pray-er, a magic bean buyer. If you're a pretender, come sit by my fire, for we have some flax-golden tales to spin. Come in! Come in!"
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we have certainly become a

we have certainly become a disposable society. It's really kind of sad that we no longer fix most things, we simply buy a new one.

2. well...if you don't like insurance there's always motorcycles...or the little scooters :)

Number 4 would be ideal. It's gonna be rough, but we should be striving for something similar. Hell we already "kind of" have something, but we pay a lot for it and it's not a very good system. If we could work out the kinks and make it available all around it'd be good for everyone.

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wooo

We've been saving up for a scooter.  Come spring I'll be tourin' Oly Scooter style.  80+ mpg, yes please.

"If you are a dreamer, come in. If you are a dreamer, a wisher, a liar, a hope-er, a pray-er, a magic bean buyer. If you're a pretender, come sit by my fire, for we have some flax-golden tales to spin. Come in! Come in!"
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Very cool! Any idea what you

Very cool! Any idea what you want?
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WTF??

"Some would cite this as further evidence that the American male is being further feminized.."

WTF??
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Banning 'tag' is stupid.

Banning 'tag' is stupid. Kids play, sometimes they get hurt. I am alive and well after a childhood of skinned knees and bumps and bruises. Kids need to run around - especially when they are cooped up at a desk for 6 hours!
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I'm Pro-Play

Banning tag is inane. We all need more play, not less. Kids and adults.

I wouldn't myself explain this coming from any misguided view of gender or caretaking roles, I would explain this just as the Diva OG does.......stupid. Sometimes stupid is just stupid.
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Isn't the school district afraid of being sued...

...for restricting exercise opportunities, and letting the kids get obese?  I'd rather see my child fall on the playground than develop type-II diabetes in childhood.  It's really scary how many overweight kids you see these days. 




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Childhood exercise..

"I'd rather see my child fall on the playground than develop type-II diabetes in childhood.  It's really scary how many overweight kids you see these days......"

I have always felt that too much sugar, television and low exercise is misdiagnosed as ADD.


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