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Submitted by The Fire Inside on Thu, 02/15/2007 - 11:26am.
Been clicking through YouTube and am pretty amazed at the amount of video from Iraq there is and how many people have put music to. So far, Iraq: "Bullet with a Name on It" is my favorite. Here's a pretty good video of a Blackwater mercenary sniping. Here's an NBC story with a few Soldiers talking about what's going on in the states. Another good montage. Although this one is probably the most sobering. Serving in the military today is like saying you fought for the Roman Legion. We are a military power that people will talk about thousands of years down the road. Oh, and be warned that some of these videos may be graphic and/or offensive. In reality, it's - well - most of the rest of the world's reality. The Industrialized World is really the only segment of the global population that is able to enjoy relative peace and security. The fight for survival is happening outside the walls of the comfort that we enjoy. We're not fighting for democracy. We're fighting to maintain a standard of living.
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As a YouTube junkie..
Submitted by Anonymous on Thu, 02/15/2007 - 11:38am.I tend to prefer the real audio of the actual footage..
I just get tired of
Submitted by The Fire Inside on Thu, 02/15/2007 - 5:27pm.I just get tired of listening to "Get some" (which one could argue is the greatest two minutes of cinematic history. "How do you kill women? Children?" "Easy. You just don't lead them as much."), "motherfucker" and bullets leaving the gun.
I think the music makes the video more entertaining. It comes down to personal preference, though.
hey!
Submitted by enpen on Thu, 02/15/2007 - 11:36pm."We're not fighting for democracy. We're fighting to maintain a standard of living."
Holy crap! You said something I completely agree with! And that statement is precisely why I am so adamantly against our current "foreign policy."
"Anybody who doesn't know that politics is crime has got a few screws loose."
Attack on Iraq was a Mistake from Day One
Submitted by Robert Whitlock on Fri, 02/16/2007 - 12:50am.The US presence in Iraq is long past its date of expiration.
In the Course of Events
what do you support?
Submitted by chad360 on Fri, 02/16/2007 - 8:15pm.We're not fighting for democracy. We're fighting to maintain a standard of living.
So, the US is at peace? So, the US is secure? Really, is that what you think?
What "standard of living" do we have here? ...are the homeless in Oly any less homeless than homeless overseas? I'm curious where these walls of comfort are here in Olympia.
Have a good "trip" overseas...you seem intent on "getting some"--
--and please try not to kill any non-combatants, rape anyone, or get "the bug" while you wear the uniform I'm paying for. I'm going to Europe to party with buddies soon and I don't wanna get bashed for what a few dumb GI "thumb-heads" do, and the US already is on the losing end of this whole mess--
As an aside, "Given how "gung-ho" the warhawks in the US are, I would have thought that the warhawks would kick-ass in Iraq..."
...but the bottom line is that the US military is pretty limp "pound for pound", and the leadership is clueless. It is a really dumb cause to fight for--
EDIT:...
Submitted by NWarty on Sat, 02/17/2007 - 12:10am.EDIT: ....
TFI has said what he
Submitted by Mike on Sun, 02/18/2007 - 5:21pm.This young, foolish essentially masculine world view gets played out generation after generation. But the creative, nurturing, sharing and more peaceful, essentially feminine world view is where hope, healing, and love reside. (And I am not sure about identifying masculine and feminine powers in this matter, but I am a bit of a Jungian, and the feminine and masculine archestypal stuff does speak to me. It's not as simple as guy and gal stuff, because you have neutered males, like Bush, acting out to assert their virility, and you have neutered females, like Condi and Hillary, similarly attempting to demonstrate their virility. These folks seem to me to be truly lost in some kind of personal, contemporaneous morality play that has little connection with any authentic human endeavor outside of the fascination with seizing and wielding power.)
I think TFI with his immature understanding of the nature and history of warfare, the lack of awareness of why there are rules of war may typify US foreign policy, history, and ethical understanding.
Why do we set out aspirations so low? I hope and pray that we would all do better than aspiring to fight with the Roman legions. Why not imagine working in the world like Mother Theresa? or facing down an oppressive military power like Lech Walesa or Nelson Mandela? Why not take on a ministry of love and compassion for "the least among us" as Jesus did in the actual shadow of the Roman legions? Why not aspire to true greatness on an individual human scale instead of some sham of greatness through brutish exercise of power by legion?
So, maybe some people will think that I am slamming TFI, and maybe that's true to some extent, but that is not my purpose. My purpose in commenting/wondering/worrying about this thread is to express my concern about what our culture and families are doing to produce so many human beings who have this young man's world view? What is going on when people can talk about how to snipe women and children - don't lead them as much? And you know this is a common interior dialogue that is taking place inside the heads of many people who take up arms "for us," for our way of life, for our standard of living. The obscene and barbaric have become commonplace. To the extent that we don't speak up and say, hey, please, be embarassed to say anything so hateful and criminal as how to snipe women and children. Even if TFI doesn't openly subscribe to these views, to post about these ideas with anything other than revulsion is to validate a brutish and criminal world view that does all of us harm.
What profiteth it a man to gain the whole world and lose his soul? Read that somewhere and it comes to mind when I read this thread.
I was at the airport
Submitted by jlw on Sun, 02/18/2007 - 2:37pm.I never would have compared this sad little crew to the Roman Legion.