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Tucker Carlson

Submitted by The Fire Inside on Sat, 09/09/2006 - 1:16am.

Anyone else a fan?

I really enjoy his show on MSNBC (he went without the bowtie tonight), and tonight he really nailed it about the ABC mini-series controversy.

Representative Jim Moran (D) from Virginia was on tonight explaining why ABC shouldn't be "re-writing history." Tucker kept trying (and trying) to question why it was Congress's business what a private company does or does not put on their schedule.

In fact, Tucker used the word "freightening" to describe the pressure being put on ABC and said "if Tom DeLay was doing this, you would see how scary it was."

I thought it was ridiculous when members of government were putting pressure on CBS to pull their Reagan mini-series and I think the same applies here.

There is way more going on in this country which Congressional members could be doing to to keep themselves busy rather than worry about a Movie of the Week.

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We are talking about the

Submitted by Norm on Sat, 09/09/2006 - 9:35am.

We are talking about the clinton administration throwing a fit over the 9/11 miniseries right? What was their problem with it I didn't catch much of the article at work and a synopsis would be great.

A long story short, former

Submitted by The Fire Inside on Sat, 09/09/2006 - 10:29am.

A long story short, former members of the Clinton administration (including the former president himself) feel that the mini-series is a misrepresentation of what took place leading up to 9/11.

How stretched or "artistically inspired" it is? I don't know. Normally the viewer would be able to decide, but some government officials don't share that view.

I don't see how this is any worse than the FCC imposing ridiculous fines because eight people were offended by a fart joke.

And is the Clinton administration this afraid a mini-series is going to write their place in history?

"People should not be afraid of their governments. Governments should be afraid of their people."

My understanding from what I

Submitted by Rob Richards on Sat, 09/09/2006 - 10:23pm.

My understanding from what I read is that the mini-series basically blames Clinton for 9/11, and clears Bush of any responsibility. I've only read one or two articles on this, so I don't really have all the info I would want to make a clear judgment.

Right, but don't you think

Submitted by The Fire Inside on Sun, 09/10/2006 - 12:28am.

Right, but don't you think you should decide for yourself?

If we can't trust the population to be educated enough to distinguish and recognize the difference between fact and film, how can we trust them to vote?

I'm dead serious. The only rational explanation I can come up with which would explain why Congressional members are protesting a mini-series is because they believe we're stupid enough to believe anything that is fed to us.

"People should not be afraid of their governments. Governments should be afraid of their people."

Earlier today, before I even

Submitted by Rob Richards on Sun, 09/10/2006 - 1:34am.

Earlier today, before I even checked OlyBlog and discovered this thread I rewatched Wag The Dog, the Deniro/Hoffman film from the 90's about political spin. Great movie. One of Deniro's lines sticks with me in relation to your last thought. It went something like, "Of course it's true, I saw it on TV." He actually said that more than once in the film.

I think the uproar is directly tied to a fear that the public will absolutely believe something that a network tells them. Also, I have read that the director of the film has been accused of sensationalism in the past.

Here's a clip from comedian and libertarian Bill Maher's show:

How Rob Thomas got to be on a political show is beyond me. Regardless, I think if 36% of Americans believe some sort of conspiracy about 9/11, then it's reasonable to believe that a large number of people would believe this docudrama without really checking the facts.

Also, for more facts on the docudrama check out the wikipedia entry here.

So you trust people at the

Submitted by The Fire Inside on Sun, 09/10/2006 - 8:43am.

So you trust people at the ballot box (and fight to make "every vote count"), but can't trust them to watch a mini-series?

Also, I haven't watched the clip yet. I'm trying to get ready for the 'Hawks game, which is on in about 20 minutes.

"People should not be afraid of their governments. Governments should be afraid of their people."

At this point, personally,

Submitted by Rob Richards on Sun, 09/10/2006 - 10:59am.

At this point, personally, no. I think people that vote down strict party lines or cast votes for one issue are risking a lot. I think some people vote for the guy they'd rather have a beer with, or the guy who talks like them, or looks better in a suit. I don't think most people even read their voters' pamphlets before they vote. Pretty much any information you could possibly want is out there somewhere, people don't utilize it.

As in 'Wag The Dog', political spinsters know that Americans, for the most part, will believe what TV tells them, especially if it looks like news. The uproar over the ABC docudrama is exactly that and nothing else. From the reports I've read, the mini-series contains outright lies when held up against the official report of the commission. Evidently the director is a member of a fundamentalist christian organization that was a big supporter of Bush, this is not damning, but it definetly gets me a little more concerned that somehow this was directly related to improving Bush's image.

I'm still unsure about the whole thing, I think there are some very interesting things going on around this mini-series. Politicians are being politicians and worrying about winning elections and not thinking about what we need for this country to make it through these times.

Yet Rob Thomas actually

Submitted by Norm on Sun, 09/10/2006 - 10:28am.

Yet Rob Thomas actually comes out and says the BEST point that the clinton administration is afraid to say: "They are hoping to win over the hearts and minds of the uneducated public in America."

I think his reason for being there was probably to lighten things up ( the man is funny ) but he was honest enough to come out and just SAY what the other 3 were thinking. Kudos to Rob Thomas.

You're right, I noticed also

Submitted by Rob Richards on Sun, 09/10/2006 - 11:08am.

You're right, I noticed also that he was the only one to come out and bluntly say it. I think it's kind of a catch-22. If you're a journalist and writing for a paper whose primary goal is to sell papers or on a TV channel whose primary concern is ratings, because they all want advertising dollars, then you can't say whatever is on your mind because it might effect sales and therefore your job. If you're a celebrity, you can say whatever you want, but nobody will take you seriously because you're just some dumb actor/singer etc.

and that is why

Submitted by yogi woman on Sun, 09/10/2006 - 12:03pm.

the media has become harmful and not helpful. they are no longer required to give us balanced information and do what is in the public's best interest, they are just in the business of selling and making money.

and we have no one to blame

Submitted by Rob Richards on Sun, 09/10/2006 - 12:41pm.

and we have no one to blame but ourselves.

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