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Submitted by UnkemptTide on Wed, 02/07/2007 - 9:18pm.

This morning Rob Richards received word from the press that the police are mobilizing 40 armed bullies to come down and end Camp Quixote.  The city has refused to negotiate with the houseless individuals that make up the camp and is not offering alternatives to the camp.  As many of us know there are countless people in the woods surrounding Olympia, spread out and isolated from one another.  For the folks downtown Camp Quixote has become a safer alternative to the dangers of camping in alone or with few others in the woods.

Last night at the city counsel meeting the city acknowledged the failure of the county and regional programs to help poor people find homes and jobs, as well as the failure of housing vouchers that are supposed to help people rent but are not accepted anywhere.  Folks on the counsel (with the exception of TJ) stated that since they had not heard about the tent city, that because no one had approached them about it, and because it was clearly in violation of the law, Camp Quixote would be put to an end. 

But where are the greater violations happening?  Why do people not have a place to stay in the first place?  Why does the United States not view housing as a human right?  And why would the city counsel sooner wash its hands of responsibility than support actions to create safer and healthier places for people in need of a bed to stay?

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Quote:

"Why has they United States not view housing as a human right?"

Housing is a right?

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Article 25 of the Universal

Article 25 of the Universal Declaration of Human Rights:

(1) Everyone has the right to a standard of living adequate for the health and well-being of himself and of his family, including food, clothing, housing and medical care and necessary social services, and the right to security in the event of unemployment, sickness, disability, widowhood, old age or other lack of livelihood in circumstances beyond his control.
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And who is the governing

And who is the governing body for these rights as they are spelled out?
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The UN.

The UN.
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Thank you EG for the short,

Thank you EG for the short, and to-the-point answer.

SO, because the city of Olympia is human rights spelled out by the UN your best course of action is...what? Try and hire a lawyer to take this to international court?

Best of luck with that. Maybe we should try and keep this local and leave out the UN bs considering how well they've been upholding international law lately....in particular for supposed US violations of UN law.

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Eleanor Roosevelt, first

Eleanor Roosevelt, first lady many years ago, was a leader dispatched by the US to help the UN develop the Universal Declaration of Human Rights.  The Declaration captures many US aspirations and sensibilities in the time after the Great Depression.
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Why housing rights

From the UN-Habitat:

 Current rates of population growth and urban-rural migration, particularly in developing countries, have serious impacts on living conditions in human settlements. By the beginning of the third millennium, it is estimated that 1.1 billion people live in inadequate housing conditions in urban areas alone. In many cities of developing countries, more than half of the population live in informal settlements, without security of tenure and in conditions that can be described as life and health threatening. Among an estimated 100 million homeless people around the world, available data suggest that increasing proportions are women and children.

The annual need for housing in urban areas of developing countries alone is estimated at around 35 million units (during 2000-2010). The bulk of these, some 21 million units, are required to cater for the needs of the increasing number of households. The rest is needed to meet the requirements of people who are homeless or living in inadequate housing. In other words, some 95,000 new urban housing units have to be constructed each day in developing countries to improve housing conditions to acceptable levels.

While increasing housing production and improving existing housing stock are very important in every society, these activities must run parallel with actions that specifically address and focus on the human rights aspects. A rights-based approach to development in the housing sector can:

  • Empower the poor and the homeless;
  • Promote security of tenure, particularly for women and vulnerable groups in inadequate housing conditions;
  • Strengthen protection against forced evictions and discrimination in the housing sector; and
  • Promote equal access to housing resources and remedies in cases of violations of housing rights.

I think we might be getting crossways with our definitions here. From what I read above, "housing rights" according to the UN relate more to equal protection rather than being provided with housing. I'm kind of reading into your meaning, but what I read when you say "housing rights" is "someone give me a place to stay."

The UN seems to be fighting against forced evictions (a sort of property rights concern) and equal access to an open market of housing.
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what is the Best Practice?

isn't that "human rights" UN stuff?

--sounds like moral one-ups-manship, but I guess the "heart" is in the correct place(?!)--


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You didn't answer the question, Norm

You didn't answer the question, Norm.  You just illustrated it.  (And are you sure you quoted it correctly?) Why isn't housing a human right?
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I think I kind of cover that

I think I kind of cover that above. The UN, as I read it, considers housing a human right not in the same way that one would call access to courts a human right. They're relating it to open access to housing, not equal provision of housing.

People should be free to pursue housing and to keep the housing they have, free of government interference.
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People should be free to

People should be free to pursue housing and to keep the housing they have, free of government interference.

Nothing pisses me off more than people being forced from their home because the property taxes increased.

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I'm sure hun

I did a copy/paste and hit ctrl + I to put in italics. They may have edited later.

I questioned his question, it makes no sense to me to bother citing UN charters when international law doesn't seem to be upheld by the UN. I feel we'd be better off appealing to our own country/state/city and informing them how we feel about human rights and/or housing.

As for housing being a "right", I'm inclined to agree with Emmett's thoughts on the subject. If we aren't providing housing for everyone we are going against international law and we need to get in step with becoming a socialist state or we could get in trouble.

If someone TRULY feels that the US is violating human rights by not building houses for people to live in, I suppose they need to let the UN know. My hunch is that it will fall on deaf ears though.

Do I think everyone should have a roof over their head? Yes. Do I think that it should/is a clearly labeled "right" and the city of Olympia is currently violating it? Absolutely not. Nothing but BS.

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Lessons from the Bonus Army

The final nail in Hoover's coffinAlthough Camp Quixote is on small scale, I would suggest both sides stop right now and read up on the Bonus Army riot of 1932. Wikipedia has a nice summary of it.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bonus_army


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housing voucher cash-in

word, history rocks! thankfully we can remember so far back now (way past oral tradition)--

so, if the oly housing voucher cash-in of 2007 starts a riot in Oly you will be given the nod by future historians (or bloggers, whatever they are called!)
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Bushmen

The wages of Republican policyDuring the bleak days of Herbert Hoover, the homeless shanty towns were called Hoovervilles. Perhaps the guys forced to live in the woods due to the failing economic policy of the current CEO of America Inc. should be called Bushmen.
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Ah yes, the Bonus Army riots

lets hope Oly's situation doesn't degrade to that level. If it become violent, the movement will lose most of the traction it has gained already.

Why aren't the PPU and others trying to find private money that is interested in the plight of the homeless to donate land, or build residential facilities, etc. Private money is where this should come from anyway, NOT THE GOVERNMENT! If Phil Owen is as eloquent as a salesman as he is a writer, he would be a good spokesperson to sell some rich guy/gal to spend their money here for the homeless. Or perhaps corporate money, looking for a tax write-off.

As it stands right now the City is having money problems, self-inflicted yes, but problems never-the-less. But the private sector is doing rather well. So go where the money is!!

"The trouble with our liberal friends is not that they are ignorant, but that they know so much that isn't so." President Ronald Reagan

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A message of solidarity, not liberal charity


I feel horrible for not being physically at Camp Quixote right now. Recently I was almost forced to buy a cell phone to find a place to rent. Rent is one thing that we are coerced into in this society because every square foot of land has a price tag on it, and "public" property is off limits to people most in need of a place to sleep. How fucked up is it that they criminalize people who do not fit into their wage slave system that demands we be happy, efficient robots for most of our waking hours. And what about the people who can fit in but find themselves unable to afford $800/mo for a 1 bedroom in the ghetto of Los Angeles or San Francisco, NYC....Or what about the people who are fired, layed off, and who could not afford to privately save money on their $7 or $10/hr job? The threat of homelessness is a big stick for the bosses and they know it. That's why they try and keep the unemployment rate around 5%...All housed, wage earning people in the area should be defending this camp like it could be their social security.

My best wishes go out to the PPU and Camp Quixote, but I'm concerned with a name like that the unrepresentative city council will feel at ease in robbing the homeless of their tents and throwing them in the tax payer supported jails. I really think the reason Dignity Village succeeded in getting a piece of land in Portland is partly because with a name like "Dignity Village" the city government would have to feel like grinches in attacking them.

Anyways, thanks for posting this news from Olympia.
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