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Submitted by UnkemptTide on Wed, 02/07/2007 - 9:18pm.
This morning Rob Richards received word from the press that the police are mobilizing 40 armed bullies to come down and end Last night at the city counsel meeting the city acknowledged the failure of the county and regional programs to help poor people find homes and jobs, as well as the failure of housing vouchers that are supposed to help people rent but are not accepted anywhere. Folks on the counsel (with the exception of TJ) stated that since they had not heard about the tent city, that because no one had approached them about it, and because it was clearly in violation of the law, Camp Quixote would be put to an end. But where are the greater violations happening? Why do people not have a place to stay in the first place? Why does the United States not view housing as a human right? And why would the city counsel sooner wash its hands of responsibility than support actions to create safer and healthier places for people in need of a bed to stay?
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Submitted by Norm on Wed, 02/07/2007 - 1:42pm."Why has they United States not view housing as a human right?"
Housing is a right?
Article 25 of the Universal
Submitted by UnkemptTide on Wed, 02/07/2007 - 1:54pm.(1) Everyone has the right to a standard of living adequate for the health and well-being of himself and of his family, including food, clothing, housing and medical care and necessary social services, and the right to security in the event of unemployment, sickness, disability, widowhood, old age or other lack of livelihood in circumstances beyond his control.
And who is the governing
Submitted by Norm on Wed, 02/07/2007 - 2:01pm.The UN.
Submitted by Ehver Green on Wed, 02/07/2007 - 4:06pm.Thank you EG for the short,
Submitted by Norm on Wed, 02/07/2007 - 5:58pm.Thank you EG for the short, and to-the-point answer.
SO, because the city of Olympia is human rights spelled out by the UN your best course of action is...what? Try and hire a lawyer to take this to international court?
Best of luck with that. Maybe we should try and keep this local and leave out the UN bs considering how well they've been upholding international law lately....in particular for supposed US violations of UN law.
Eleanor Roosevelt, first
Submitted by Mike on Wed, 02/07/2007 - 5:07pm.Why housing rights
Submitted by emmettoconnell on Wed, 02/07/2007 - 7:48pm.I think we might be getting crossways with our definitions here. From what I read above, "housing rights" according to the UN relate more to equal protection rather than being provided with housing. I'm kind of reading into your meaning, but what I read when you say "housing rights" is "someone give me a place to stay."
The UN seems to be fighting against forced evictions (a sort of property rights concern) and equal access to an open market of housing.
what is the Best Practice?
Submitted by chad360 on Wed, 02/07/2007 - 6:11pm.--sounds like moral one-ups-manship, but I guess the "heart" is in the correct place(?!)--
You didn't answer the question, Norm
Submitted by jlw on Wed, 02/07/2007 - 7:46pm.I think I kind of cover that
Submitted by emmettoconnell on Thu, 02/08/2007 - 3:52am.People should be free to pursue housing and to keep the housing they have, free of government interference.
People should be free to
Submitted by The Fire Inside on Thu, 02/08/2007 - 6:24pm.Nothing pisses me off more than people being forced from their home because the property taxes increased.
I'm sure hun
Submitted by Norm on Wed, 02/07/2007 - 8:40pm.I did a copy/paste and hit ctrl + I to put in italics. They may have edited later.
I questioned his question, it makes no sense to me to bother citing UN charters when international law doesn't seem to be upheld by the UN. I feel we'd be better off appealing to our own country/state/city and informing them how we feel about human rights and/or housing.
As for housing being a "right", I'm inclined to agree with Emmett's thoughts on the subject. If we aren't providing housing for everyone we are going against international law and we need to get in step with becoming a socialist state or we could get in trouble.
If someone TRULY feels that the US is violating human rights by not building houses for people to live in, I suppose they need to let the UN know. My hunch is that it will fall on deaf ears though.
Do I think everyone should have a roof over their head? Yes. Do I think that it should/is a clearly labeled "right" and the city of Olympia is currently violating it? Absolutely not. Nothing but BS.
Lessons from the Bonus Army
Submitted by stevenl on Wed, 02/07/2007 - 9:05pm.http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bonus_army
housing voucher cash-in
Submitted by chad360 on Wed, 02/07/2007 - 9:46pm.so, if the oly housing voucher cash-in of 2007 starts a riot in Oly you will be given the nod by future historians (or bloggers, whatever they are called!)
Bushmen
Submitted by stevenl on Wed, 02/07/2007 - 10:08pm.Ah yes, the Bonus Army riots
Submitted by OlyCop on Thu, 02/08/2007 - 4:40am.lets hope Oly's situation doesn't degrade to that level. If it become violent, the movement will lose most of the traction it has gained already.
Why aren't the PPU and others trying to find private money that is interested in the plight of the homeless to donate land, or build residential facilities, etc. Private money is where this should come from anyway, NOT THE GOVERNMENT! If Phil Owen is as eloquent as a salesman as he is a writer, he would be a good spokesperson to sell some rich guy/gal to spend their money here for the homeless. Or perhaps corporate money, looking for a tax write-off.
As it stands right now the City is having money problems, self-inflicted yes, but problems never-the-less. But the private sector is doing rather well. So go where the money is!!
"The trouble with our liberal friends is not that they are ignorant, but that they know so much that isn't so." President Ronald Reagan
A message of solidarity, not liberal charity
Submitted by therings on Thu, 02/08/2007 - 5:52pm.I feel horrible for not being physically at Camp Quixote right now. Recently I was almost forced to buy a cell phone to find a place to rent. Rent is one thing that we are coerced into in this society because every square foot of land has a price tag on it, and "public" property is off limits to people most in need of a place to sleep. How fucked up is it that they criminalize people who do not fit into their wage slave system that demands we be happy, efficient robots for most of our waking hours. And what about the people who can fit in but find themselves unable to afford $800/mo for a 1 bedroom in the ghetto of Los Angeles or San Francisco, NYC....Or what about the people who are fired, layed off, and who could not afford to privately save money on their $7 or $10/hr job? The threat of homelessness is a big stick for the bosses and they know it. That's why they try and keep the unemployment rate around 5%...All housed, wage earning people in the area should be defending this camp like it could be their social security.
My best wishes go out to the PPU and Camp Quixote, but I'm concerned with a name like that the unrepresentative city council will feel at ease in robbing the homeless of their tents and throwing them in the tax payer supported jails. I really think the reason Dignity Village succeeded in getting a piece of land in Portland is partly because with a name like "Dignity Village" the city government would have to feel like grinches in attacking them.
Anyways, thanks for posting this news from Olympia.