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Submitted by darrow on Sun, 01/13/2008 - 7:16am.
It's been suggested by one clever Olyblogger that "Olympia is for hippies, Tumwater is for cowboys, and Lacey is for soldiers." Is Olympia a melting pot of countless viewpoints and cultures or is it one central voice with a minority undercurrent? Is Olympia's perspective changing in the face of the global shifts that have occurred since 9/11 (arguably since the election of 2000)?

Steeped in the ethos of the Bible Belt and still "fresh off the boat" from back East, I have not yet shaken a sense of strangeness--of things simultaneously familiar and foreign. As I posted in one reply, my husband (a native Northwesterner) offered my first clarification--the reconciliation of guns and environmentalism--when he offered the term "Ted Nugent hippies..."

Politics, religion, sex, all of the things that one should not discuss in polite conversation, are precisely the areas that I want to explore. What does it mean to be an Olympian?
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Welcome to our obscure little corner, Darrow

Our South Sound Stories section might help in getting some background on what makes this part of the world different. Also, I tried to capture the evolution of Oly during the last 40 years through my Evergroove Trivia posts. Not really an answer to your question, but hopefully helpful and entertaining anyway. Oh, yeah, the Spar, not quite the same as it used to be, but it is close to center of action and an Olympia icon.
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If you're a reader and/or a

If you're a reader and/or a fan of history you might want to check out the books of the late Gordon Newell. I think they're all out of print but many of them can often be found at all the used book stores downtown, plus most of them are available at the library too.

Too bad my Grandparents generation is almost all gone, there have been wonderful stories from many of them. A lot of people don't know that there was a massive train wreck right in downtown nearly 50 years ago. My Grandpa had a ton of pictures since he was Adjutant General at the time and they needed tanks to remove the wreckage; all his pictures were lost in the fire that killed him and my Grandma.

There's also a Native American burial ground somewhere in the vicinity of Priest Point Park. One of my Uncle's had found a skull and brought it home when he was a kid. The sheriff at the time asked that they not tell anyone else where they were digging about so that people wouldn't desecrate the area.

When you hear people of a Conservative persuasion complain about Evergreen it's good to remember that Republican Gov. Dan Evans was instrumental in getting the college started.

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Let define...

... Olympia, not as what it is, but what we want it to become.

Trying to capture a current moment in time will always be instantly outdated and will in the end only make us long for the past that's long gone.

Olympia is, like any other place all about the people.

And just like people change, move to and from and evolve this City will. There are certainly some constant fixtures in this city, but I refuse to let my environment define me, but fight hard to turn my dreams into reality.

 

"All men dream, but not equally, those that dream by night in the dusty recesses of their minds, wake in the day to find that is was vanity; but the dreamers of the day are dangerous men, for they may act upon their dreams with open eyes, to make it possible."

mathias eichler

einmaleins 

http://www.1x1olympia.com 

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Well said, Einmaleins

The study of history is important in that it helps us not repeat mistakes of the past. Studying the past helps us appreciate and recognize what boundaries need to be pushed and what walls need to be torn down. The study of history helps us define a starting point where we can measure our progress.

But you are right in saying "Olympia, not as what it is, but what we want it to become." Hopefully OlyBlog serves as a place where we can define that vision as a community.

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History is important....

...I'm just always so impatient and want to get things done.... Am afraid of getting stuck in the "research phase" the "consider time". I want to move. No more talking... LET'S BUILD THIS CITY ON ROCK 'N' ROLL! ...okay, that was corny, sorry! mathias
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the two Olympias

Mathias and I were talking about this very topic the other day when I stopped by his store to say hi.

I believe that there is an Olympia "old guard" that is resistant to the quick growth that Oly has experienced, and therefore chooses to push "city problems" (like visible poverty) out, instead of coming to grips with the fact that these problems were not brought here (by TESC or by anybody) but grew here as growth was not handled effectively by our leaders. The other Olympia are people that have settled here over the last few decades, some from bigger cities, others to study at TESC, others like our friends the Taellious and Eichman families who settled here just because they heard it was a great place to live and wanted to be a part of our dynamic community.

There is an ideological battle of sorts going on right now between these groups. The former wants to hold on to a simpler Olympia of the past, unfortunately this is impossible given the growth we're experiencing. The latter want the opportunity to be a part of the direction our city takes, and feels left out of that. I'm not blaming anybody for anything here, both sides have slipped up, politically for instance, the "old guard" failed to listen to the people who actually live and work downtown before passing the Pedestrian Interference Ordinance in the Winter of '06; and the "young" progressives have misspent a lot of political capital over the last few years (see: Nuclear Free Zone Ordinance and the fight against visiting warships, both fights were won, so to speak, by the progressive community, but at what cost overall given last November's city council elections where any slight sign of progressivism doomed your campaign from jumpstreet?).

I agree with Mathias, who want to be, or, how we want to be defined is more important for us to figure out as a community than who we are. Our future depends on it.

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Yes, yes, yes

Rob, you nailed it. Bingo. On the nose. Whatever other phrase I can use that means "you are right".

Interestingly, this matches Mark Foutch's analysis in WIP (except for his claim that Mah et al are really liberals, when in fact they are a new version of "old guard").

Matthew Green 

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thanks Matthew

A new version of the old guard.

I think you're right about that. That's exactly what they are, except they see that the old guard have made mistakes, and are looking to correct them, and fix Olympia, but still from that Old Guard mentality that brings us ideas like the conference center. The Old Guard isn't opposed to growth, they just want it a certain way. Mostly, they want the good without the bad. They want the economic stimulation of a conference center, or The Doug Mah Experience Synergy Project down on the port floodlands, without dealing with, for one, the housing issues that that level of job creation (like a hotel and/or sports/event complex)) is going to deliver.

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Mah has said in the past

In Lewis County he is considered a liberal. In Olympia he is considered a conservative. I wouldn't consider him a conservative, but he is definitely more conservative than some of the far left council members we have had in the past.

“America passes the critical gate test. Open the gate and see where people go – in or out. This is still the country people flock to.” George Will

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Interesting

I think the liberal/conservative line may be difficult to apply to people in the NW. I remember something from civics like a grid--dividing political viewpoints into 4 sectors depending on whether a person was 1) socially liberal/conservative, 2) fiscally liberal/conservative.

I still don't have a handle on it though...
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When I bought my boat

In November of '06 I came down to Swantown to take possession.  My original plan was to sail Libertarian up to the Seattle area where I worked.  Even before I got off the 603 bus I knew I had to move down here.  I got a job in March of '07 down here, and have been in Oly ever since.  My first impression was a place where hippies, loggers, liberals, greeners, conservatives and general weirdos were rolled up into a nice comfortable, slightly worn out town.  My initial thoughts were of the spirit Seattle claims, but lacks, and of Port Townsend.  There was (and still is) a kind of undefineable attitude here I really enjoy.  Maybe hippies with guns isn't too far off base.

Having lived here nearly a year now, some of the luster has worn off, my job puts me in close proximity with the public, and I have gotten a better glimpse at the good, the bad, the ugly, and the women with awkard amounts of facial hair of Olympia.  I still love it here though.

I'm not sure where Oly is going, but I hope "revitalization" doesn't go so far as to ruin Olympia.  Stupid crap like protesting the navy ships visiting for lakefair, and the "nuclear free zone" is to me, just that, stupid crap.  Is it progressive, or inane, pointless pie in the sky thinking?  I don't know, but I believe it is possible to go too far on any end of the political spectrum, to the detrement of whatever cause a group is trying to push.  It may be for the good that there is some change in city government now.  It balances things out a bit.  

I think I will stick around for some more of the ride though...  it's been fun so far! 

"No guns, know crime. Know guns, no crime."

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The best is yet to come

That is my hope. Having transplanted my family from Seattle back in July of '07, I am eager to learn more about my new home town. Moving here has enabled us to upgrade our home and enabled me to start my own business. The down side has been that while I have the convenience of being able to work from home, I have lacked the opportunities to take the town and the people of Olympia into my heart.

Ironically, my main motive for moving out of Seattle was to get away from the commuter community. The people I worked with side by side commuted downtown from all over King, Snohomish and Pierce counties. Even the church I attended was a commuter community. It's hard to develop significant friendships in such an environment. Alas, it's just as hard while working from home. The long and short of it is that there are few places where strong and meaningful community happens incidentally.

My challenge is finding ways to insert myself into my new-found community. I'm not the kind of person who can make that happen overnight. I'm not the charismatic people-person everyone wants to get to know. I often let my cynicism get the best of me. But with time, I plan to find ways to become more involved with the greater community. I have chosen to make Olympia my home. Whatever I have to contribute to the community will help in the ongoing process of defining Olympia.

Marcus DeHart
^Caret

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Welcome

I'd suggest we start a club for fellow cynics, but I don't think anybody would show up.

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A Cynic of a Different Color

Cynicism originates in the philosophical schools of ancient Greece that claim a Socratic lineage. To call the Cynics a “school” though, immediately raises a difficulty for so unconventional and anti-theoretical a group. Their primary interests are ethical, but they conceive of ethics more as a way of living than as a doctrine in need of explication.

In practice, the cynics held virtue to be the only good and eschewed worldly possessions.

I have called myself a cynical realist in the past, but looking back at the word origin, I think perhaps I will call myself a cynic of the Greek school.

I have telecommuted in the past and can empathize with the above post--additionally because I am now on disability so it's basically the same situation.

To borrow the words of a one time famous resident of this city, "Here we are now...entertain us...."
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That's the Apathy Club where

That's the Apathy Club where nobody shows up.

Yorn desh born, der ritt de gitt der gue
Orn desh, dee born desh, de umn børk! børk! børk!

The Swedish Chef

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SWEDISH CHEF!!

LMAO!!! I'm married to a Swede and have looked everywhere for a written example of the Swedish Chef :)
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Merwyn and I were just

Merwyn and I were just talking about the Swedish Chef, you can find tons of youtube clips out there. I about fell over laughing the past week.
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