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Submitted by ashley on Thu, 02/21/2008 - 6:54pm.
Dear OlyBlog, I am a frequent lurker and newly registered member. While there is much to discuss and consider around the events at TESC the night of the 14th, I'm here with some questions about the Olympian and general media coverage. I rely on OlyBlog for a lot of local news, and based on information gleaned from here, it seems that the Olympian did not do any significant investigation into what happened. It’s eerily familiar to me from their Port protest reporting. During the Port protests in November, the paper frequently quoted the Chief of Police and officials at the Port in regards to the motivation of protesters without allowing those folks to represent themselves. What I noticed with the TESC riot is the same thing: the rioters are represented by an officer with the Washington State Patrol, stating that “They didn’t feel the arrest that was being made was fair.” [http://www.theolympian.com/570/story/360206.html] Having read first-hand accounts posted on OlyBlog and elsewhere, it appears that many people in the crowd were infuriated by what they perceived as a racially motivated and inaccurate arrest. This is not reflected anywhere in the initial story or any subsequent updates in the Olympian. The first-hand accounts sent out by Tony Zaragoza strengthen my perception that the Olympian did not do anything to identify a chronology, but simply collapsed events together in a way that seemingly justifies the actions of one party while placing disproportionate blame on the other group. In its coverage of the riot, the Olympian omitted how and when the pepper spray was used, thus making it appear that the crowd got violent first. This is especially noticeable and concerning after the release today by the Geoduck Union of footage from that night. I was not present at the riot. I have a number of thoughts and emotions around what happened, but my interest here is simply in stating that I think that there is a fuller story than what the Olympian reported. This fuller story still has not been acknowledged by the paper. I am especially concerned because their stories form the basis for regional coverage when something in Olympia is deemed news-worthy-- and it's the initial article that gets repeated, omissions and all. Personally, I hope for a good faith effort on the part of journalists to understand a situation in detail, through observation and investigation, and to assist me in gaining a fuller understanding of an issue. I’ve started avoiding the Olympian, because I think that at least on certain topics, the paper reflects of negative and reactionary public opinion rather than genuine reporting. I question the paper’s credibility and professionalism. Why is acceptable to demand accountability from disorganized crowds, and not from public institutions that are organized, funded, and carry out intentional commands? What do you all expect from local journalism?
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It's just not a priority and
Submitted by Ehver Green on Thu, 02/21/2008 - 7:14pm.It's just not a priority and I don't think it should be. Olyblog is read by enough members of our community to say we've done a better job than The Olympian and I think that's a good thing.
I don't know why The Olympian isn't doing more in-depth reporting on this topic but if it has anything to do with out of sight, out of mind (as far as TESC goes), I'm fine with it. The less we hear about TESC, the better. I mean really, when's the last time TESC was in the paper for positive things?
Part of my issue is that the
Submitted by ashley on Thu, 02/21/2008 - 7:26pm.I agree. My good friend,
Submitted by Ehver Green on Thu, 02/21/2008 - 8:20pm.I agree. My good friend, who is an Olympia Police Officer, has a 4 year degree from Evergreen and he did it while in the department - all of it for the most part. I can only imagine what that would have been like for him but it also says something about TESC student population that knew he was a police officer and didn't impede his ability to learn and graduate. They're not all bad, I know this to be true. In fact, I'll go out on a limb and say most are good people who just wanna live and learn.
The extreme folks, if they don't have a mirror, should look at the far right-wing Christian church from Kansas and reflect. Yes, that's you on the other side of the spectrum.
How many people took
Submitted by security_six on Thu, 02/21/2008 - 7:44pm.Their story to The Olympian? Reporters aren't omnipotent. Instead of asking this question on Olyblog wouldn't it be more appropriate to ask the editors of The Olympian?
"Safety is a tyrant's tool; no one can be against safety."--Unknown
I know that reporters aren't
Submitted by ashley on Thu, 02/21/2008 - 8:51pm.I sent this to the Editorial
Submitted by ashley on Fri, 02/22/2008 - 5:19pm.You could say the same for Microsoft
Submitted by Rob Richards on Thu, 02/21/2008 - 8:18pm.Huh?
Submitted by Ehver Green on Thu, 02/21/2008 - 8:22pm.Are you so out of your element here that you've resorted to bashing the company I work for?
I'll debate you on the merits of TESC and Microsoft any day. From benefit to communities, to wage earners, to you name it, you'd flame out like a fire in Siberia.
Re-read what you just wrote for those new folks who should know you're better than this. I know it and you know it.
You're funny.
Submitted by Rob Richards on Thu, 02/21/2008 - 8:22pm.Thank you. I've heard that
Submitted by Ehver Green on Thu, 02/21/2008 - 8:24pm.Thank you. I've heard that a few times today. Glad to know you agree.
And now we broil...
Submitted by Ehver Green on Thu, 02/21/2008 - 8:26pm....may not mean much to you but this is a step in a direction Microsoft has generally been afraid of.
Announced by Bill and Steve today.
yeah, where did that come from?
Submitted by chad360 on Thu, 02/21/2008 - 10:39pm....seems way outta left field~
> I wanted this to respond to Rob's comment above, but it showed up down here <
Their men's basketball team is doing well
Submitted by Anonymously Larry on Thu, 02/21/2008 - 8:49pm.How often is the Olympian critical of the police?
Submitted by jlw on Thu, 02/21/2008 - 8:13pm.IIRC
Submitted by security_six on Thu, 02/21/2008 - 8:19pm.They were insisting on seeing a video of when a state trooper shot a perp who rammed his cruiser to ensure what really happened.
Are you unwilling to call up any of the editors there to ask these questions? I would think they would have better answers than an argueably hostile towards The Olympian here.
You know what? I am pro police. I am however, anti stupid and will always demand an accounting for actions by individual officers.
Of course I also agree with what OPD did at the port protests.
"Safety is a tyrant's tool; no one can be against safety."--Unknown
The editors don't respond to questions like that.
Submitted by Rob Richards on Thu, 02/21/2008 - 8:21pm.Consider your relationship
Submitted by Ehver Green on Thu, 02/21/2008 - 8:29pm.Yeah, I might poke 'em in the eye.
Submitted by Rob Richards on Thu, 02/21/2008 - 8:31pm.Well, if you do you should
Submitted by Ehver Green on Thu, 02/21/2008 - 8:36pm.I noticed that too.
Submitted by The Original Yoda on Thu, 02/21/2008 - 9:31pm.When you said, "the Olympian did not do anything to identify a chronology, but simply collapsed events together...",
I was right there with ya. I read about the "riot" first, here on OlyBlog and then sometime later, read the Olympian's coverage.
They definitely missed some opportunities to inform the public about basic events, in some type of timeline, or something.
Maybe they don't care beyond bare-bones, "oh, by the way" - reporting. Seems like it's getting worse to me.
Thanks for posting this.
Argggh!
Submitted by wildleaf on Tue, 02/26/2008 - 2:13am.Yeah where were the first hand accounts. The Olympian goes straight to the police. I guess it is easier, those lazy bums. Accuracy isn't important. I noticed after the video was aired they said nothing about the OPD starting the violence. In that article me and Peter were relegated to the last few paragraphs.
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