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Submitted by Just another voice on Wed, 04/23/2008 - 7:44pm.

A few weeks ago this rainbow was painted on this power pole downtown, near State & Columbia. Since then, the tagging stopped on the pole, and it made the corner look nice and bright.


Today when I came home I saw that it had been painted over, back to grey, a fresh canvas for more tags and junk.


I can understand painting over tagging, since it asserts 'ownership' over a certain area, but this was a rainbow.

I wonder why it was painted over back to grey, and who did it- PSE, City of Oly? The nearby Les Schwab?

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I saw that too...

 I'm assuming an authorized person repainted the private property that had been vandalized. 

Unauthorized "tagging" (which is a silly word IMHO to mask the fact that the person is engaging in a destructive act on private property without authorization) is an expensive and time consuming crime.  I don't care how "artistic" such acts are, without permission of the lawful property holder, it is simple vandalism plain and simple.  It would have been nice to see a matching color painted over the graphitti though...  perhaps there was none available.  Some cities require graphitti to be covered up within a certain time, or the property owner faces sanctions.  I know Seattle does...   

I'm a bitter, clinging American.
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I'm not sure who painted it over

I've asked Code Enforcement and will post again when I hear back. Also, a rainbow has appeared on the guard rail at the bottom of Bowman, by the Westside Coop. It is lovely.
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As a business owner

 How do you feel about "tagging" especially random acts, artistic or not that have no authorization?  I think it's akin to either a dog peeing to mark it's territory, or the act of someone with no respect for property rights.  

I'm a bitter, clinging American.
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I don't want to open up a

I don't want to open up a debate about graffiti and what is art, etc... I am just wondering why someone would paint over a rainbow. At the same time, we immediately assume it was 'unauthorized.'

What if it were authorized? Would your thinking change?

A lot of the tagging around town is just plain lame and obtrusive yes, but what about when neighborhoods take initiative and paint the 'intersections' murals, or near the Co-Op by painting the guardrail.

In both places tagging on those blank canvases has reduced. This is the same in most places that replace blank canvas with community murals. Take East Bay Drive for example-- along the retaining walls, where simple silhouettes of people, birds and fish have allowed the wall to remain tag free. Contrast that with the blank wall that is along Olympic Way (the wall along the street between the two roundabouts on 4th/Harrison). That wall is constantly being repainted, and now has several shades of grey :-).

I think the rainbows were a simple gesture of color. It interests me that the city-- or whomever-- would start a new canvas for taggers to return.

I guess all I am saying is that we need more murals around these parts! And that if I were charged with moving about the city covering tags I think I would leave the rainbows :-)



But I am Just Another Voice

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I got a bit of a rant in there, sorry

 I'm guessing since the rainbow was painted over it was unauthorized.  The idea of having to paint walls to prevent vandalism is absurd in my mind.  But then again I have that whole silly idea of respecting property...

As I maintain, painting on something with permission is always acceptable.  As far as community groups painting public guard rails and whatnot, that is public property, and if the community around it sees fit to paint it, and the city sees fit to leave it alone...   

I'm a bitter, clinging American.
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When they outlaw rainbows...

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LOL

 n/t

I'm a bitter, clinging American.
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You know what is great about

You know what is great about that retaining wall on East Bay (at the bottom of San Fran.) is that a private citizen asked to do that. Public Works looked at the plan and said okay. No plans existed to do a mural, no city or other organization did it, just an older gentleman who wanted something besides concrete on his street. I've lived here over seven years now and have never noticed anyone messing with that mural.
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I lived across from that wall for 7 years (left 5 years ago)

It was never a big tagging target even before it was painted with that lovely mural. It's not a very conveniet or attrative place to tag I guess.
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That is pretty neat. I

That is pretty neat. I think it would be awesome to paint that same type of mural up on Olympic Way, between the roundabouts. Either that or a giant rainbow!

But I am Just Another Voice

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Hee hee...

...someone put a boner on one of the figures once.
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And when you say someone, you mean not you?

nt
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Nope, it wasn't me.

Someone told me and I looked and there it was!

But IF someone were sailing down the Mississippi last summer, near the Illinois/Wisconsin border and someone looked to the island on their right and saw this:

 

...then yeah, I did that.

But that is completely different.

:) 

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As a business owner

I see a difference between tagging and graffiti. My favorite mural downtown is the Japanese-style one on Childhood End. I noticed that "Meek" had tagged it. I say boo. BOO. By far, most tags are ugly and precisely akin to marking territory. I wouldn't call the rainbow tagging, and I also wouldn't want to be in charge of writing the rules for what should be removed and what should be left alone.
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Symbol of Evil

You know that rainbows are a symbol of evil...

Remember:

ignorance is strength
war is peace
freedom is slavery

Or [gasp] maybe it is that painting over a painted rainbow is a sign of evil...

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I think that's too bad

A rainbow on a pole is qualitatively better than a gray pole. I think we should be more encouraging of our attempts to make things better instead of blindly following private ownership mantras.

"In principle, I am an anarchist. Kurt Vonnegut once said he was an agnostic who respects Jesus Christ. I am an anarchist who loves democracy." - Kenzaburo Oe

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I think the Rainbow looks

I think the Rainbow looks nicer too. That means we should ask the owner or city (whichever's applicable) if we can have it be rainbow colors. If a private owner says no, that's that. If a city says no we can try petitions, public awareness, etc.

After a lifetime of some benefit to himself and inconvenience to others, Crowley passed away in 1947
Former Olympian Paul Shrug

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I don't think asking answers all problems

And I think there's a lot to be said for the spontaneity behind somebody taking it upon themselves to make public view space better. Rainbows don't ask for permission to show up in the sky. It's not a straight up analogy, I'm aware, but painting over things because somebody didn't ask for permission is both short sighted and guarantees that it will be an expensive "problem.".

"In principle, I am an anarchist. Kurt Vonnegut once said he was an agnostic who respects Jesus Christ. I am an anarchist who loves democracy." - Kenzaburo Oe

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I don't know if anything can

I don't know if anything can be said outside of the usual banter that you and I have already covered time and time again. Rainbows don't ask for permission to appear in the sky, but Seagull Splatters don't ask for permission to be on my windshield either.

Wouldn't it be cool if somebody painted a giant caiman on the Capitol Dome?

After a lifetime of some benefit to himself and inconvenience to others, Crowley passed away in 1947
Former Olympian Paul Shrug

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yes

The existing Corinthian columns would make excellent teeth...or maybe we could just have a big condom put over it to protect us form its emulsions.

"In principle, I am an anarchist. Kurt Vonnegut once said he was an agnostic who respects Jesus Christ. I am an anarchist who loves democracy." - Kenzaburo Oe

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Are they Corinthian or Doric?

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they look

pretty Corinthian to me.

"In principle, I am an anarchist. Kurt Vonnegut once said he was an agnostic who respects Jesus Christ. I am an anarchist who loves democracy." - Kenzaburo Oe

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maybe someone is a ...

...rainbowphobe.
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The Government needs to

The Government needs to regulate Rainbows - too many kids are climbing them and then falling to their deaths when it dissipates.

After a lifetime of some benefit to himself and inconvenience to others, Crowley passed away in 1947
Former Olympian Paul Shrug

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high, much?

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It was a vision (but only an

It was a vision (but only an illusion) that I had.

After a lifetime of some benefit to himself and inconvenience to others, Crowley passed away in 1947
Former Olympian Paul Shrug

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Doric, Ionic, Corinthian

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Enpen's right, they are Corinthian

I studied Greek styles of architecture for awhile and really like the columns for some reason, that's why the weird lesson that hijacked the thread. Mea Culpa.

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It's both...

look at the columns on the wings.
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that's not the dome



"In principle, I am an anarchist. Kurt Vonnegut once said he was an agnostic who respects Jesus Christ. I am an anarchist who loves democracy." - Kenzaburo Oe

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Doh!m

...
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Good eye Gug

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Wow. I really love Olyblog

Ain't we a bunch of erudite Mofos! I mean what other blog would descend into a debate over architectural columns. (except an architecture blog of course) Way Cool!!!!

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Ionic are my favorite by the way.

Doric is too uptight, and Corinthian is just played out.

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It's all Greek to me

n/t
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Doric is grace and the flow of form

Beeatch!

And let's not even talk about Greek culture. Nudge, nudge, say no more, say no more.

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