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Submitted by djmega on Sat, 07/29/2006 - 1:18pm.
Aug 25 2006 - 8:00pm Aug 25 2006 - 11:00pm  Come one, come all and put a fire under our community to fight the Federal Grand Jury coming to town, the occupation of Cheetwood (Black Bear Place, the Nisqually name for Olympia), and the destruction of the Earth. Come feel comforted that there are others who realize that the American occupation started here, and that Iraq is just another page in a long book of Civilization's death march. Join together with your friends in creating a wall of resistance against this occupation here in America and against outrageous state oppression. The Green Scare -- the FBI witch-hunt against environmental activists -- has come to town, but we are up the challenge. One person who has helped many realize the total failure of Civilization is author and activist Derrick Jensen. He has two new books about fighting Civilization, called Endgame Volumes I and II, and will speak about them. Members of Olympia Civil Liberties Resource, a group formed to support the civil liberties of activists in response to the Green Scare, will also speak about how you can help the resistance movement against state oppression and the grand jury coming to town. Real people, with real friends and family, are facing 35-400 years in jail for allegedly committing arson in this area. We need to show support for these people and let the government know we will not tolerate their outrageous use of force enabling their occupation and destruction of this placed called America. Derrick Jensen is the author of Endgame Volumes I and II, The Culture of Make Believe, A Language Older than Words, Listening to the Land: Conversations about Nature, Culture, and Eros, a USA Today Critics Choice for one of the best nature books of 1995, and Railroads and Clearcuts. He writes for The New York Times Magazine, Audubon, and The Sun Magazine, among many others. Tickets are $5.00- $15.00 and are available at the box office night of show. Event sponsored by: Done and Done - Proceeds help benefit Olympia Civil Liberties Resource, for more information on the event visit www.derrickjensen.org or www.olycivlib.org Olympia Civil Liberties Resource is an Olympia-based organization working to defend the civil liberties of all citizens -- particularly activists exercising their constitutional rights. OCLR seeks to educate the public regarding current threats to civil liberties, and to act as a general resource for activists. |
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Yeah, cause I really want to
Submitted by Phil Owen on Sat, 07/29/2006 - 1:42pm.And yet he's living in one
Submitted by The Fire Inside on Sat, 07/29/2006 - 3:53pm.And yet he's living in one of the more "civilized" countries (by traditional standards).
I'd think if he wanted to live in an "uncivilized" part of the world, he would be in sub-Saharan Africa.
"I am for free commerce with all nations, political connection with none, and little or no diplomatic establishment. And I am not for linking ourselves by new treaties with the quarrels of Europe, entering that field of slaughter to preserve their balance."
Quote:
Submitted by Rick on Sat, 07/29/2006 - 4:15pm."I think it would be a good idea."
Mahatma Gandhi, when asked what he thought of Western civilization
NICE.
Submitted by Phil Owen on Sat, 07/29/2006 - 7:29pm.uhhh...
Submitted by DrewHendricks on Fri, 08/25/2006 - 10:27am.Western Civilization (historians and anthropologists and such) would define a city as a higher than normal density of population, and possibly require specialization of labor and writing as well, to declare a settlement or a village to be a "city." Derrick Jensen defines it (correctly, in my opinion as a Univerity trained journalist and historian) as a region which is not ecologically self sustainable. A city is a region which must import resources to live.
Because we live in an economic system which has to grow to remain extant, and we live in a finite ecological system called a planet with fixed water and air resources, many people have pointed out that we are headed for some kind of reckoning with the consequences of these two facts. The Malthusians would tell you that the problem is "too many people." The Marxists would tell you that the problem is one of distribution of wealth. Derrick Jensen will tell you what no one wants to hear:
Economic growth in a closed system is like being a yeast cell eating sugar water in a sealed bottle.
That might be a great way to produce lots of nasty byproducts (alcohol) and drown in your own filth, but it's a very bad way to leave a lasting legacy of art, history, culture, and social development. Yet we continue to do this cycle again, and again, and again. This time we're spread out enough and have the technical capability to wipe out most Mammals larger than a cat, for around a millennium or twenty. If you don't think you need to "fight civilization," you're probably someone who defines civilzation in terms of specilized labor and writing. If you agree with Jensen's economic definition, the implications are that civilization is already fighting YOU.
Well, whose side are you on?
Absurd.
Submitted by Phil Owen on Sat, 08/26/2006 - 10:16am.It's a semantic issue, but one that highlights the importance of semantics for activists. This is one more example of an activist who undermines their own work by speaking in a way that common people will not hear. I mean, the first thing that popped into my mind when reading this post was, "what, is this guy a primitivist or something? Let him go eat bananas in the jungle then."
Not that I disagree with your premise about growth, Drew. We need to stop population growth and to cool our economic engines. Put more focus and research into harmonizing with nature (ie permaculture practices, composting, renewable energy, etc) rather than into trying to overtake nature. But again, the suggestion that "civilization" is the "enemy" is kinda ridiculous.
Some Say
Submitted by Robert Whitlock on Sat, 08/26/2006 - 9:06pm.I say that can be true.
I missed the event
Submitted by Robert Whitlock on Sat, 08/26/2006 - 9:07pm.