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Submitted by Rick on Sun, 07/30/2006 - 9:41pm.
Aug 12 2006 - 12:00pm “The civilian population as such, as well as individual civilians, shall not be the object of attack. Acts or threats of violence the primary purpose of which is to spread terror among the civilian population are prohibited. |
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As Israel’s recent attacks
Submitted by The Fire Inside on Mon, 07/31/2006 - 1:28am.As Israel’s recent attacks on Lebanon escalate
To be fair, it's not as if Hezbollah or their sympathizers have stopped operating.
I think yesterday was described as a record day for rockets to hit northern Israel.
"I am for free commerce with all nations, political connection with none, and little or no diplomatic establishment. And I am not for linking ourselves by new treaties with the quarrels of Europe, entering that field of slaughter to preserve their balance."
to be fair
Submitted by Rob Richards on Mon, 07/31/2006 - 9:43am."He that would make his own liberty secure, must guard even his enemy from opposition; for if he violates this duty he establishes a precedent that will reach himself." - T.P.
Does the scale determine who
Submitted by The Fire Inside on Mon, 07/31/2006 - 11:58am.Does the scale determine who is "more" at fault?
What is the difference between an Israeli strike killing 60 (combating a guerilla enemy which hides among the general population) and an individual walking onto a bus with explosives?
It would appear to me Israel is doing the best they can to fight an enemy which does not want to meet on the battlefield.
"I am for free commerce with all nations, political connection with none, and little or no diplomatic establishment. And I am not for linking ourselves by new treaties with the quarrels of Europe, entering that field of slaughter to preserve their balance."
"combating a guerilla enemy
Submitted by Rob Richards on Mon, 07/31/2006 - 1:02pm.I've heard this talking point from many analysts on FoxNews and from others as well. Every time I hear it used I cringe, because it's as if that one little sentence is supposed to excuse the slaughter of children and other innocents. Now, I'm not going to accuse you using it in this way, I just feel you should think about what that statement means.
If Hezbollah met Israel on the battlefield, they would be annihilated, so we should expect guerilla warfare. Israel has intelligence organizations that rival ours. They have special forces that rival ours as well. Instead of launching missiles and dropping bombs willy-nilly, killing everything in sight, they could be a lot more precise. I hope the UN comes down on Israel for this. I also hope the US will come down on them.
"He that would make his own liberty secure, must guard even his enemy from opposition; for if he violates this duty he establishes a precedent that will reach himself." - T.P.
On the whole, yes, I was
Submitted by The Fire Inside on Mon, 07/31/2006 - 1:24pm.On the whole, yes, I was using the sentence in such a manner.
Of course Hezbollah would be annihilated if they met on the battlefield. Guerilla warfare is their only legitimate option.
Guerilla warfare, though, is dependent upon the civilian population to, at the least, be in tacit compliance with the activites being undertaken by the guerillas.
This is why when we talk about the situation, we have to realize Hezbollah has a lot of support in the region among the general population. I think it's as much their stance toward Israel as it is they're the most efficient organization when it comes to helping the local community.
Which brings me to the question I was attempting to raise: Can one distinguish between a guerilla and a civilian? Is there a difference?
Also, regarding special forces. I think a lot of people tend to overestimate the capabilities even the best (Germany, Israel, the United States, England, etc.) have available to them.
As much as I like to fantasize about Rainbow Six, I don't think real life resembles a Tom Clancy novel.
"I am for free commerce with all nations, political connection with none, and little or no diplomatic establishment. And I am not for linking ourselves by new treaties with the quarrels of Europe, entering that field of slaughter to preserve their balance."
I was watching news reports
Submitted by Rob Richards on Mon, 07/31/2006 - 2:07pm.Whether or not we have the capabilities displayed in fiction novels, we have the ability to solve our problems without carpet bombing children. We'll have to find a way because the days of battlefields are over. We haven't declared war on an enemy, we've declared war on a crime, and criminals hide. It's time to reevaluate how we wage war in the modern age, don't you think?
"He that would make his own liberty secure, must guard even his enemy from opposition; for if he violates this duty he establishes a precedent that will reach himself." - T.P.
errr
Submitted by Norm on Mon, 07/31/2006 - 5:03pm.I think you are mistaken. We can't even solve the problems in our own country without having a war, what makes you think we can somehow show the middle east what to do? The closest thing we have to a body of people to help intervene is the UN and let's face it, when it comes to conflicts, the UN is pretty useless at stopping them. So what are we as olympians going to do about it? Stand on the street corner with our sign hoping that Israel, or even our own country, will read it and make a change? I'm thinking that the only way we'll have peace in the middle east is for the human race to die out.
I pose you a
Submitted by Phil Owen on Mon, 07/31/2006 - 7:50pm.Have you ever wondered why the Egged busses in Israel are so often the target of suicide bombers? It's because the Egged busses (which are civilian) are the primary means for intercity transit of soldiers. A good third of the riders on any Egged bus are usually soldiers. So... who's hiding behind civilians?
read up and get educated
Submitted by kapoly on Mon, 07/31/2006 - 8:55pm.