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Submitted by Laurian on Wed, 02/20/2008 - 3:41pm.
From the accounts I've read I have to conclude there were only two woman involved that night, the responding security officer who was threatened by the mob and the woman who identified the person detained. From what I've seen rioting is a macho, testosterone fueled dick thing. I'm curious: How many women threw punches at the show. How many women threw garbage at the cops? How many women helped to turn over the cop car? I ask these questions because I wasn't there and therefore do not know. Please do not interpret my words as dismissing the power of women to physically defend their beliefs. Women have a centuries-long history of being on the front lines of the barricades. Women were on the front lines of the WTO police riots in Seattle and they were there at the Port military resistance. Their actions speak louder than any words I can write. What I'm raising for discussion is the role patriarchal bias plays in the conversation over the riot.
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I think you need to better define...
Submitted by Tschida on Wed, 02/20/2008 - 3:44pm.One of the great non sequiturs of the left is that, if the free market doesn't work perfectly, then it doesn't work at all-- and the government should step in.
Thomas Sowell
Huh?
Submitted by Laurian on Wed, 02/20/2008 - 3:47pm.Tschida I'm assuming your
Submitted by Laurian on Wed, 02/20/2008 - 3:49pm.You said,
Submitted by Tschida on Wed, 02/20/2008 - 3:53pm."What I'm raising for discussion is the role patriarchal bias plays in the conversation over the riot." What are you talking about? what bias? What are you claiming here? you need to define exactly what you are saying, beyond your gender bashing vitriol.
C.
One of the great non sequiturs of the left is that, if the free market doesn't work perfectly, then it doesn't work at all-- and the government should step in.
Thomas Sowell
Tschida - Easy buddy,
Submitted by Merwyn Haskett on Wed, 02/20/2008 - 4:03pm.Laurian - Odds are very good that the majority of participants were men. Testosterone mixed with Adrenaline (and alcohol) is volatile.
Do you have any thoughts on the assaulted woman's claims being brushed aside or ignored on the various discussions? I would think that shows a lack of awareness or understanding for victims of DV or Assault.
“I urge people not to cooperate with police”
Peter Bohmer, Evergreen Professor
It didn't read like...
Submitted by The Original Yoda on Wed, 02/20/2008 - 3:56pm.It didn't read like...
Submitted by Tschida on Wed, 02/20/2008 - 4:06pm.Just in case you missed what I was refering to, quote " From what I've seen rioting is a macho, testosterone fueled dick thing." This is what I was talking about. That is why I said what I did.
No I don't listen to much Ani DeFranco, she can't sing so I don't listen.
C.
One of the great non sequiturs of the left is that, if the free market doesn't work perfectly, then it doesn't work at all-- and the government should step in.
Thomas Sowell
I think...
Submitted by chad360 on Wed, 02/20/2008 - 4:18pm.I think that what Tschida./C. is responding to is this part of the message:
"From what I've seen rioting is a macho, testosterone fueled dick thing."
To respond to the thread question posed by Laurian:
I was not there, so I don't know how many females "rocked the vote" that nite.
>anything else I got is second-hand from friends that were there<
I guessed right!
Submitted by chad360 on Wed, 02/20/2008 - 5:27pm.Alright Tschida, I'll bite
Submitted by Laurian on Wed, 02/20/2008 - 4:24pm.Definition Patriarchal A system run by males (not females).
From what I've seen rioting is a macho, testosterone fueled dick thing. rhetorical flourish my friend. I try to craft words as well as express ideas
Come on Tschida the facts are men are overwhelmingly responsible for property destruction and violence. Go to the FBI web site and review the crime statistics. The bias I speak of is all the reporting on the incident I've read has been authored by bylines that appear to indicate the writer was male. Comments on this blog have a 4 to 1 bias in that direction as well. We won't mention the posts on the Olympian web site.
Now instead of throwing invective how about addressing my questions. Does the FACT that the majority of coverage and conversaion in this topic in any significant way shape the discussion? If not, wht not. If you think my my questions are inane, why are they inane? Conversation friend, not bomb throwing.
From the discriptions I've read of the mob
Submitted by Guglielmo on Wed, 02/20/2008 - 4:26pm.Practical men, who believe themselves to be quite exempt from any intellectual influence, are usually the slaves of some defunct economist.! --John Maynard Keynes
gender bias
Submitted by chad360 on Wed, 02/20/2008 - 4:57pm.Yup. I agree.
Empathy is not experience (I can't walk in your shoes, nor you mine), but it can be the first step towards understanding & tolerance (I don't know where all-that came from, but I'm just typing it down as it comes out...).
You pointed out the gender ratio and postings/discussions...
--I'm really curious what you sense. Care to share?
I'm wondering what the
Submitted by Jeff Brigham on Wed, 02/20/2008 - 11:29pm.I'm wondering what the reaction here on Olyblog would be if someone would descibe an incident using the phrase "it is a bitchy, estrogen fueled cunt thing" ?
Predictions anyone?
Jeff Brigham
Fair question....
Submitted by security_six on Wed, 02/20/2008 - 11:31pm.I would hope that it would get about as much notice as the comment that sparked your question.
"Safety is a tyrant's tool; no one can be against safety."--Unknown
good point
Submitted by chad360 on Thu, 02/21/2008 - 9:56am.the point?
Submitted by chad360 on Thu, 02/21/2008 - 9:54am....while you speculate, "what kind of incident would that be?"
They'd might get the same treatment as someone...
Submitted by The Original Yoda on Wed, 02/20/2008 - 11:35pm.....posting blogs about a famous Olympia flasher.
Who knows.
Flasher?
Submitted by security_six on Wed, 02/20/2008 - 11:48pm.You mean someone else is "open carrying" in Oly???
"Safety is a tyrant's tool; no one can be against safety."--Unknown
I Did Not Flash Anybody!
Submitted by JstPlnOnry on Wed, 02/20/2008 - 11:52pm.on purpose! The wind blew my skirt up!
;-)
I like the phrase, "You say bitch like it's a bad thing..." but the "c" word really irks me! I hate when men refer to their women as their "old lady" too. Blaaaach!
"A point of view is only a view from a point..." ~ Unknown
Yeah, I get the feeling Jeff isn't very experienced
Submitted by Guglielmo on Thu, 02/21/2008 - 8:43am.Practical men, who believe themselves to be quite exempt from any intellectual influence, are usually the slaves of some defunct economist.! --John Maynard Keynes
Not Scary at All!
Submitted by Jeff Brigham on Fri, 02/22/2008 - 12:38am.You need to get out in the real world a bit more. I think you have been hanging out in Evergreendinia way too long.
Jeff Brigham
So Jeff
Submitted by Guglielmo on Fri, 02/22/2008 - 9:34am.Practical men, who believe themselves to be quite exempt from any intellectual influence, are usually the slaves of some defunct economist.! --John Maynard Keynes
Play the ball, not the
Submitted by Ehver Green on Fri, 02/22/2008 - 11:08am.Play the ball, not the person.
Yep, you're right.
Submitted by Guglielmo on Fri, 02/22/2008 - 11:24am.Practical men, who believe themselves to be quite exempt from any intellectual influence, are usually the slaves of some defunct economist.! --John Maynard Keynes
Point of clarification!
Submitted by The Original Yoda on Thu, 02/21/2008 - 11:38pm.Gug, yoni is the analog for lingam.
Namaste.