Now I know what they do at Evergreen... 

The story so far: In the beginning, the Universe was created. This has made a lot of people mad and been widely regarded as a bad idea. -The Restaurant at the end of the Universe

I would also like to hear more first hand accounts. Who was the individual who was originally attacked and ganged up on in a potentially racially motivated incident? I would like to hear his side of the story from beginning to end.

Who were the 4 white men who supposedly ganged up on the black man?

What was the specific time frame of the whole incident?

Is there evidence, suspicion, or reason to believe that agent provocateurs were involved?

Inquiring minds want to know. From these reports it sounds like there was an immense amount of anger involved.

With that attitude I have every right to hope some of those idiots were injured. Notice, everytime a white cop arrests a black person people scream Race? Are we really supposed to believe that there's no such thing as African-American lawbreakers?

“I said it in Hebrew—I said it in Dutch—I said it in German and Greek: But I wholly forgot (and it vexes me much) That English is what you speak!”
The Hunting of the Snark

But, a first hand opinion from a Greener: "These people are idiots."

And, the discussion over at the TESC LJ community is less woo-hoo than you could assume. 

Justice does not prevail for the apathetic, and you are not going to "change the system" by turning over a cop car. Unfortunently, and notice the key word: because I am noting that I am not a fan of increased policing and am quiet far to the left in most cases, unfortunently there are more people who are comfortable with the criminal justice system than there are willing to "violently overtake the police state."

Sometimes it is easier to break the machine from within.

"...The kid they arrested was standing next to me and my wife for most of the headliners set..."

Dead Prez

scroll down to Valentine's day riot

(Yikes, important to note - I got this lead from Citizen Rain)

to me from the original post...

"at Evergreen we don't take kindly to police"

Enough said!

 

"At this point the car gets tagged with markers and stickers.. fuck the pigs, 187 opd, etc. the entire concert surrounds the car and demands that the police release the student. the cops refuse and open pepper spray on the crowd.. this is met with an uproar of self-defense and glass bottles and trash cans fly at the officers causing them to retreat after spraying slightly more pepper spray."

Concert-goers break the law by attacking a police officer and a government car with markers and stickers, and an officer of the law is scared for their life so they use pepper spray and concert-goers feel the need for self-defense by throwing glass bottles and trash cans at the officer of the law and a government car?  WTF?  This makes me madder than hell.  That frickin' college is a state funded college where officers have every right to do their job at.  Disrespecting them, our laws and our government property isn't a TESC students right.  I'm impressed the police had as much restraint as they did and those people are lucky they weren't shot by rubber bullets or real ones either.  But if they had been, it would have definitely been justified in my book.

"we do have a very radical community laregely based around the anti-war movement and we have seen Police use an array of different chemical agents, batons and other LESS-than-lethal means of dealing with protestors (cops were chasing kids with tasers last night among other LtL weapons).. we have never at Evergreen or as far as I know of.. know a state school in which the cops were forced to retreat after a cop makes her 2nd racially charged arrest in just under 3 weeks and is faced with 140+ of the most militant members of the community. it was unbelievable timing, a combination of ... dead prez inspiring everyone, this event occuring and a lot of animosity brewing particularly toward the arresting officer. "

How sad and sickening to know TESC has such disrespect for the law, our police officers, our government and the community of Olympia.  It's no wonder nobody has anything good to say about this disgrace and embarassment of a college.  And to say this Dead Prez group was inspiring everyone because they encouraged the crowd to disrespect the police is stomach turning.

"he was taken into our custody by us before the police left"

Uh, hello?  The concert-goers are NOT officers of the law.  How can they claim the man arrested was taken into their custody?  And to be so proud of it.  Nauseating.

"the arresting officer said they would but they were buying time so that officers in pepperspray could show up and douse us. since we were getting peppersprayed on our own campus with no street medics (this was not an organized protest) they were met with all the force the students could get together."

I seriously doubt the officers addressed the crowd saying they would release the guy in a bit as soon as other officers could get there to spray them with pepper spray. 

It's funny the comment includes "on our own campus"...  Hey.  I help pay for that sorry excuse of a college and I think anybody involved with the rioting, destruction of property and threatening of officers deserved everything they got & more on the campus my tax dollars fund. 

I can't express how angry this story makes me.  Not only angry, but sick to my stomach as well.  And to know there are students there and roaming around my city glorifying their actions and behavior.  Your puffy chest beating is despicable. 

TESC claims to want to be a part of their community and yet can't wonder why nobody can or will accept them...  Is it no wonder?

"A point of view is only a view from a point..." ~ Unknown

To Students (from here):

You may have heard about an incident at the Dead Prez concert on campus last night. This is a serious and disturbing incident for our campus and we want to ensure that the people responsible are held accountable for their actions.

These are the basic facts as we understand them at this time:

Several individuals were involved in a fight at the concert Thursday night.

As the concert was ending, one of the people involved in the fight – not an Evergreen student – was arrested and escorted out of the building by an Evergreen police officer and placed in the officer’s car.

To accommodate additional statements from members of the crowd regarding the incident – while she planned to take the detained person to Police Services for further questioning – the officer called for assistance from Thurston County Sheriffs.

Thurston County officers responded to the scene.

A crowd of people had surrounded the Evergreen officer’s car as she tried to leave the scene. They demanded that the person arrested be released and started striking the car.

The car and the officers outside were being pelted with rocks and bottles.
The Thurston County officers called for further back-up and other officers began to arrive at the scene.

The Evergreen officer got out of her car, obtained basic identification information from the person she’d detained and released him from the scene.

The crowd still did not disperse and continued to throw things at the officers and push them.

The officers used pepper spray to disperse the crowd and allow the car and the Evergreen officer to leave safely.

A Thurston County police vehicle still at the scene was overturned and seriously damaged. An Evergreen police vehicle was less seriously damaged.

While there was a large crowd gathered, not all of the people on the scene were involved in damaging the police vehicles. It’s unclear at this point just how many people were directly involved in causing the damage.

The initial indication is that there were no serious injuries.

By the time an additional contingent of officers arrived, the crowd had largely dispersed.

It appears at this point that the officers involved in responding to this incident acted appropriately in managing the situation.

Evergreen Police Services is leading an investigation of the incident with support from the Thurston County Sheriff’s Department. If you have information that would help in the investigation of this incident, please contact Police Services at 867-6832.

I by no means represent Evergreen.. I represent years of developing my personal perspective. There are kids on campus right now protesting the actions taken last night.

The thing is this line:

"I'm impressed the police had as much restraint as they did and those people are lucky they weren't shot by rubber bullets or real ones either. But if they had been, it would have definitely been justified in my book"

should be disturbing to everyone including you.. how is destroying a piece of property justification for shooting people? do you really put more value onto a piece of property (property that isn't even yours) over the lives of young adults?

I think the only question that really needs to be answered at this juncture is why does the context have to be overlooked in the media in particular but in the discussion around this event?

at the most basic level when two people get into a fight both should be detained regardless of the situation so that in court it isn't one person prosecuting and one person defending themselves.. both people should have to defend themselves equally. in this instance only one person was detained.. and that was a person of color. I think that context needs to be thoroughly examined.

but yeah I personally stand for all the things I said in my post.. and while many people at evergreen and beyond disagree with me I firmly believe that the law must be challenged by the people and not by beuracracy and a court system that does not represent the interests of all Americans.

and appreciate the person who runs this blog for editing my post where I posted misinformation.

In the interest of peace and happiness, I'm closing this thread. I'll open a new one for more new related to this topic.