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Submitted by Bert on Mon, 11/17/2008 - 8:03pm.
Hey, let's be careful so that private interests aren't allowed to dominate public policy!
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What's your problem, Bert?
Submitted by Sandy M on Mon, 11/17/2008 - 8:18pm.You're right,
Submitted by Just another voice on Mon, 11/17/2008 - 8:46pm.But I am Just Another Voice
Rezoned Property Valuation
Submitted by Bert on Tue, 11/18/2008 - 3:34pm.Does anyone care to speculate how much the rezone will increase the value of the relevant properties?
The rezone will obviously raise property values. But by how much? How much is the property worth now, under current zoning (consider that Triway was to exercise its options on concurrent parcels)? How much would the property be worth if the rezone is approved and Triway similarly exercises its options in acquiring adjacent parcels?
This is absolutely critical to understanding how government can influence, and provide direct benefit, to a private business interest.
What's the public interest in this matter? Maybe it is in the creation of Larida Passage? Maybe it is in a park? Maybe it is in approving the rezone? Maybe it is denying the rezone proposal? Maybe it is declaring eminent domain for the purposes of creating, at some point in the relative not too distant future, a central park.
Sustainability is in the public interest. On that I think there is general and wide-spread agreement - if not absolute consensus.
Is the purpose of sustainability paramount? I don't think agreement is as wide-spread on this.
For example, in terms of investments, $1 million dollars spent on a project that will benefit all of us is a lot different than approving a rezone, the benefits of which are murky, to say the least.
Oh and by the way, did anyone answer my question about why $50,000 in public city tax dollars were spent on a study of this private-developer-led rezone proposal?
That smacks of corporatism.
So, how much financial benefit will the rezone provide to Triway Enterprises?
Socratic Method my ass
Submitted by Laurian on Tue, 11/18/2008 - 8:50pm.Does anyone care to speculate how much the rezone will increase the value of the relevant properties?
Oh, oh pick me! I know the answer. Bert. Bert wants to speculate on increased land values. So what do I win?
Bert, your bad imitation of a long dead Greek pederast is getting old. Enough of the weasel works. Just state your opinion and have at it.
Harrumph!
Your park proposal costs the city more, so...
Submitted by Just another voice on Tue, 11/18/2008 - 6:09pm.Studying the land by the city or by the cities consultant company is completely appropriate. What would you be saying if TriWay or TriWays hired consultant had done the study?
And speaking of spending money, how much does it cost the city to do the public park study from the citizens initiative?
"City Manager Steve Hall estimated a consultant would cost up to $75,000"
But I am Just Another Voice
I Prefer Yellow
Submitted by Ehver Green on Tue, 11/18/2008 - 7:02pm.While I like green, I really liked the yellow boxes. I'd rather have those over anything green. Except the condos - I think they'll qualify for some green certification.
I move that we add the
Submitted by Meta Hogan on Wed, 11/19/2008 - 11:16am.Without the 1934 $100,000 gold certificate obstruction
Submitted by Bert on Wed, 11/19/2008 - 11:33am.An alternate view without the obstruction provided by a 1934 series $100,000 gold certificate bank note.
what is going on here?
Submitted by chad360 on Wed, 11/19/2008 - 2:04pm.Hmm, well a humorous answer would be that maybe someone is having too much fun with image manipulation software =)