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Submitted by Chia on Thu, 03/27/2008 - 7:55am.
1421: the year China discovered America? offers a controversial history lesson. Even without the intrigue of mystery, the gorgeous boat models and vicarious travel made this film worth checking out.
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You did get it!
Submitted by security_six on Thu, 03/27/2008 - 9:34pm.But you took the easy way out with the film! The book is even better! I'm inclined to believe a lot of what is said. From a seafaring point of view, the Americas should have been old news to anyone willing to put up a sail.
Coastal sailing and staying in sight of land is not the safe easy thing many may think it to be. It's easier to cross an ocean than run a coastline. By the time Columbus got around to getting over here the Euroasians should have been regular visitors.
If you liked this, read Heyerdahl's "The Ra Expeditions"
And Tim Severin's "The Brendan Voyage"
I could go on and on, but difusionism is to me very real. It's easy to sit behind a desk and theorize. While some make theories, others set sail and made reality.
"I think there was something funny in that hippie."--Lrrr ruler of Omicron Persei 8
Thanks for the suggestions!
Submitted by Chia on Thu, 03/27/2008 - 10:34pm.Your quotes have to be Pratchett, no?
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Nonviolence Includes Animals:
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"PETA President Ingrid E. Newkirk's address to the International Nonviolence Conference in Bethlehem"
I read 2-3 books a week
Submitted by security_six on Thu, 03/27/2008 - 10:52pm.so I get around to stuff sooner or later... plus books about boats and ocean voyages are for some strange reason high on my list.
My quotes are not Pratchett, but good guess. They are from Futurama, specifically the episode "The Problem with Popplers" Not a very vegan friendly episode BTW. The "hippie" Free Waterfall Jr. is described in wikipedia article "...as a vegetarian environmentalist who acted as spokesman for "Mankind for Ethical Animal Treatment" (MEAT), a parody of PETA"
Lrrr gets stoned after eating the hippy. You may not find the episode funny or you may love it as a parody of the whole meat eating thing... I don't know. If the context of my quotes are offensive I can change them...
"I think there was something funny in that hippie."--Lrrr ruler of Omicron Persei 8
Quotes...
Submitted by Chia on Tue, 04/01/2008 - 6:58am.I really liked the quote by Meta that flies love. It showed respect for a woman's voice as well as a sensitivity toward issues of speciesism...and, what could be more hyperlocal than a quote by a local person! :)
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Nonviolence Includes Animals:
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"PETA President Ingrid E. Newkirk's address to the International Nonviolence Conference in Bethlehem"
Umm... wow.
Submitted by security_six on Tue, 04/01/2008 - 7:29pm.I had no idea I was doing any of that. The context of the quote is interesting.
We were talking about how I found a more enviormentally friendly way to rid my boat of flies one day when I left it open in the summer. I used some Seventh Generation liquid cleaner, and spritzed the flies. They got too heavy to fly, and then I vaccumed them up.
Meta makes some sort of comment about sweaty greasy flies trapped in a shop vac.
I bust out laughing.
Then she says "Ya' know, even flies love"
When I hear something I like, or agree with, I respect the voice. Irregardless of sex. Meta is an intelligent person, even if she is a liberal :-) (Now I'll have to buy her a drink for that crack...) Why wouldn't I respect what she says?
When you start segregating "men's voices" or "women's voices" then a divide is created IMHO.
"I think there was something funny in that hippie."--Lrrr ruler of Omicron Persei 8
What a sad context...
Submitted by Chia on Tue, 04/01/2008 - 7:56pm.Please refrain from future stories about cruelty, whether fictional or not. I'm just not interested. I want to live in a sensitive and compassionate world.
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Nonviolence Includes Animals:
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"PETA President Ingrid E. Newkirk's address to the International Nonviolence Conference in Bethlehem"
Sorry...
Submitted by security_six on Tue, 04/01/2008 - 8:05pm.I shouldn't have related the whole context. I don't know of a good way to keep bugs out of one's living quarters, or rather how to get them out once they are in...
My problem is I try real hard not to stratify society, so I don't view it as such. Yes I have my weaknesses still in that regard, but sexual differences isn't one of them. A voice is a voice to me. I'm open to what you have to say about stratification, it's there. I just try not to operate that way.
I shouldn't have told the fly story to you. Sorry.
"I think there was something funny in that hippie."--Lrrr ruler of Omicron Persei 8
It is one thing to demonstrate that the voyages were possible
Submitted by Guglielmo on Fri, 03/28/2008 - 1:20pm.DNA evidence
Submitted by security_six on Fri, 03/28/2008 - 8:19pm.and the presence of non native species that orginiated in China in North America isn't compelling enough?
What about the observatory structure in Rhode Island (I think it is in RI) that resembles similar chinese structures?
Several wrecked chinese junks, including one in the Sacremento River Delta and another in Australia...
The Bimini Road...
Native Americans with chinese DNA and legends of "yellow men"
Not to mention the fact that these voyages were sent out from China...
I could go on and on, but there is some pretty compelling evidence along with some shaky evidence.
We may never know 100% if the Chinese were here before Columbus, but there sure were a lot of others....
First I guess it helps to believe in diffusionism...
"I think there was something funny in that hippie."--Lrrr ruler of Omicron Persei 8
Not really into high seas adventure books.
Submitted by emmettoconnell on Fri, 03/28/2008 - 8:15am.Either I missed those
Submitted by Chia on Fri, 03/28/2008 - 1:06pm.---------
Nonviolence Includes Animals:
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"PETA President Ingrid E. Newkirk's address to the International Nonviolence Conference in Bethlehem"
I don't remember that part of the movie
Submitted by emmettoconnell on Fri, 03/28/2008 - 1:11pm.But, in the book it was the part about when the palace/temple burnt down. The Chinese saw it as a sign that the current ruler (the one who wanted to sail oversees) was cursed by the Gods. It also turned out that he built a really huge palace very quickly and pushed China pretty far socially.
So, while the burning palace might have been more a sign of bad planning, it was seen as a sign from the Gods.
Yeah that was
Submitted by security_six on Fri, 03/28/2008 - 8:19pm.supposedly the reason nothing was done to follow up on the discoveries made so far by the chinese.
"I think there was something funny in that hippie."--Lrrr ruler of Omicron Persei 8