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Submitted by Paul on Thu, 11/15/2007 - 9:53am.

Could it be that some things are missing from the discussion about the protests at the Port of Olympia marine terminal?

I do not support the war. I do not support the use of the Port for military operations. I also do not support rock-throwing or violence of any kind by any one.

However, if one steps back, one might come to the conclusion that ultimately, this is a situation created by the Port, not the City of Olympia, and by people who promote "non-violence" by instigating violent exchanges through their own actions. For example, breaking out windows downtown is not "non-violence", nor is throwing rocks at police cars. Behavior has consequences.

I have been wondering over the past few days about how many of the protestors are registered to vote in Thurston County, and if registered, how many voted in the Port Commission race last week. I wonder if the majority of them know anything of the outcome of the election or that there even was a recent election. I also wonder how many of them have attempted to express outrage at the action by the Port in a constructive way. I also would like to know how much recruiting of additional protesters was done with out-of-state organizations, who, while they may have a stake in ending this war, have no stake in our community.

I don't know how the decision was made to allow the military off-loading to occur here. If the Port did it without public discussion, then the Port needs to be held accountable for that. The City of Olympia did not have a hand in approving this, and given the incredibly bad relations between the City and the Port, I would be surprised if the possibility of the military shipments was even discussed before the decision was made by the Port. I also wonder why the Port did not anticipate this reaction. That seems short-sighted. Perhaps, had some outreach been done, these protests could have taken place in a respectful manner, rather than erupting into the destructiveness we have seen over the past few days.

The other question that must be asked, again of the Port, is what, exactly, is it willing to accept here in order to accommodate a money-losing operation? I would be interested to know how much the Port is being paid to accept these shipments, how much it spent on its "private security firm".

How much has the City been forced to spend on police overtime, pepper spray, staff time now and in the months to come as the so called Angry Peace-Mob unleashes its misdirected wrath on the City of Olympia while the Olympia Port Commission, the real culprit in these shipments, seems to smirk and get away with its secretive dereliction of duty?

I truly love our little town of Olympia. I love the energy and generosity of this community. I do not like to see us embroiled in the kind of stuff that detracts from truly important and huge local issues such as homelessness, and affordable housing and health care and child care for all who live here.

Bob VanSchoorl
Commissioner, District 1
Phone: (360) 357-4121
Email: bobv@portolympia.com

Bill McGregor
Commissioner, District 2
Phone: (360) 491-6350
Email: billm@portolympia.com

Paul Telford
Commissioner, District 3
Phone: (360) 866-8619
Email: pault@portolympia.com

Ed Galligan
Executive Director
Phone: (360) 528-8001

"The Port Commission welcomes your comments concerning current meeting agenda items. We would appreciate your comments two business days prior to the scheduled meeting."

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Excellent point about

the port commision races and the potential power of the vote. I would be intrested in hearing someone knowledgable describe negotiations or other discussions, if any, between OlyPMR and the Port. Should there be a "red phone" between the organizations?
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non-issue during the election?

I raised this point around the filing period, but as I remember it, using the port for military shipments was not an issue with the three candidates challenging sitting port commissioners.

The one candidate who I was almost sure mentioned it, Suzanne Nott, doesn't have a word on the issue on her website.

Here's a quote from an interview with Van Schoorl, Nott and Barner:

-- Van Schoorl: The port should continue to accept military shipments. We provide easy access to Fort Lewis and McChord Air Force Base.

-- Barner: I still believe that we have an obligation to do what we can to ensure the health and safety of our armed forces personnel. We should be shipping supplies that are needed and in use in the Iraq theater. If they can be shipped out of here, I have no problem with that.

-- Nott: I don't think it's a good business decision because they know it is going to bring about protests. There are costs associated with that.

Nott lost in a three way primary, but the eventual winner supported military shipments.

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Well put Paul.

The most clear-headed analysis I've yet seen on the port situation. My personal feelings keep going back and forth on how I feel about the situation. Most of the time I'm just saddened that it has gotten to the point that it has with both sides slipping at times into thoughtless violence. I definitely do not wish to root for those in power, but many of the actions taken by the protesters turn me off completely and make me want to shut it all out. While at the same time I see people I know injured by the police and I feel anger rise within me. I want to do what I can, in the best way I can (every person has a different way they that suites them best) and it takes constant reminders that these things take time and when the situation reaches an escalation such as has occurred, both sides lose. Time will yield if we have the determination. Thank you Paul for reminding us of the battles such as healthcare and the homeless issue, along with numerous other examples, are battles that must be waged continuously; even if they lack the glory and the testosterone rush of a standoff with the riot squad.
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History

Yes, we knew there was a Port Commissioner race. Most of us probably voted in it, and we actively (as PMR) invited all the candidates to speak with us. Some refused.

The "outside agitator" theme is cute - especially since the 833rd Transportation Battalion is based in Seattle, its Marine Terminal Coordinator lives in Ruston, and the vehicles themselves just came from the ultimate in outside agitation, a pre-emptive war and occupation of another country on another continent. They're being shipped through our Port so that they can go to Pierce County (Ft Lewis) and most of the soldiers driving them come from some other state.

But I suppose you have to solve the cognitive dissonance somehow, and labeling the victims of the violence "outsider" is a classic way to do that. Trouble is, none of us is an outsider. We're all on this little liferaft of rock by ourselves, with each other. And there is precious little space for a shooting match if we want to still be around in a hundred years.

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Yeah

I don't buy that outsider crap. Good point about the outsiders coming through the port. Did OlyPMR endorse or otherwise support any particular candidate?
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Accepting that endorsement

Accepting that endorsement would amount to political suicide!

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Oh you're probably right about that. Seems futile

But I just wondering outloud if it would be possible for PMR and it's associates to direct resources and energy toward the political process in addition to direct action. Obviously, such an effort would have to insulate itself from the radical wing. But PMR is more than just people in black hoodies. I can imagine an organization with much broader appeal that could have thrown its resources into the port primary. Maybe they did. A lot of folks weren't paying very close attention then. See, now there's a role PMR could play. They could remind folks, without death-by-endorsement, about the importance of their choices during the primary.
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Brilliant

Maybe you should go to one of their meetings? If you want company I would tag along.
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Agreed

And, while we're thinking outloud, how much did our local elections influence the port protests?  I mean, had Meta, Matthew , Jean Marie, and Bill Pilkey won their respective races, would the last 10 days have looked any different?
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No, but the next 4 years would

I'm kind of a strategic guy when it comes to this stuff. Then again, I'm not sure what would have happened had the elections turned out differently. People might have felt a little bit more empowered and less prone to express it in other ways. Pretty hard to say.
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Of course not.

Why would it? Were you just looking for an excuse to rub it in that all of your conservative friends won?
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Rob,

really now. If Mah is conservative, what is Rossi?
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a snake?

He always kind of creeped me out.
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He's conservative compared

He's conservative compared to me. Or you probably. Definitely more so than Nader Norm.
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Hell, I'm a conservative

Compared to you and Gug

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Just Ask

In fact, no, it wasn't an attempt to run the score up to 70.  I ask exactly for the reason Guglielmo suggested - empowerment.  Thanks for asking, though.

You sound positive about your answer with, "Of course not" but I'm not so sure.  We can only theorize.  Pardon me for saying something interesting and provoking some thought.  Back to my hole.

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Yeah, you stay in your hole!

I just don't think the election being opposite would have affected these protests at all. The protests were fueled by frustration about the war, I'd highly doubt that local politics played a role.
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I'm Poking My Hands Out

To say, in all honesty, the results of the election from a numbers perspective didn't cross my mind when posting.  I also want to say I meant no ill response.

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You have to just let me be bitter for a while.

I'm used to rooting for the losing team. I grew up in Portland, and rooted for the Raiders in football, Blazers in basketball, and the Mariners in baseball. "So close, yet so far away" - is the story of my life.
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Oh, I don't need a reason to

Oh, I don't need a reason to rub it in.  The results were enough.
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