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Submitted by Rob Richards on Wed, 09/07/2005 - 2:17pm.
Sorry for the non-local news, but this is important to me.
» –Rob –We are in Jefferson Parish, just outside of New Orleans. At the National Guard checkpoint, they are under orders to turn away all media. All of the reporters are turning they're TV trucks around. Things are so bad, Bush is now censoring all reporting from NOLA. The First Amendment sank with the city.– I found this on DailyKos Which came from here Which gives me a Forbidden message, are you guys able to access it? This is covered by the media here To me, this is an embarassment. It's not enough that the government won't allow the media to talk about what's really going on in Iraq, but now this. All I can say is that I am outraged. This is happening on our own soil. Americans are dying because of the Bush Adminstration's "Inarguable Failure", as Jon Stewart so eloquently stated on The Daily Show last night. To those who would point the finger elsewhere Stewart offered, "No. Shut up". From what these folks are saying, it sounds like media suppression. Authorities don't want the people, you and I, to see what they caused. Most notably, the thousands and thousands of deaths that were caused by the woefully inadequate and delayed response and the budget cuts made over the years, by both Bush adminstrations, to money that would have gone towards prevention of a catastrophy of this magnitude. I was given great hope by the media's reaction to Bush's nonreaction to Katrina, and they deserve praise for their return to pull-no-punches journalism. I just hope that journalists will find the guts to either sneak past the checkpoints and risk prosecution or make enough noise about this that authorities have no choice but to let them in. I'm interested in other peoples reactions to this. |
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It's pretty early to blame th
Submitted by The Fire Inside on Wed, 09/07/2005 - 5:02pm.You're absolutely right about
Submitted by Rob Richards on Wed, 09/07/2005 - 5:27pm.Also, the problem with the levees HAS been known for decades, and funding has been cut for decades because it was considered pork.
I spent the last week glued to my computer, with cnn on in the background. There wasn't much time that I was away from a news source. I was trying to get every little morsel of info out there. I think I got most of it. What I saw, was people suffering for a number of days, with no help. No help even in sight. No one did anything for days. I don't blame god or racism for this at all. I blame unpreparedness. I can't imagine, had the local authorities had thousands of people to help, and millions of dollars in supplies, that this would have happened. The federal government has the resources. They didn't use them. Pres. Clinton has stated this on Larry King, calling for an independent investigation.
If it was democrats in power I'd be just as outraged.
Who gives those kinds of orders? I don't think the order to turn away the media or block photographs came from FEMA, I think it must have come from higher up than that. Those just aren't the kinds of things that are decided on that level.
I'm curious what local and st
Submitted by The Fire Inside on Wed, 09/07/2005 - 5:39pm.I think you may be right abou
Submitted by Rob Richards on Wed, 09/07/2005 - 6:31pm.The local infrastructure was
Submitted by The Fire Inside on Wed, 09/07/2005 - 6:45pm.I think we're arguing in the
Submitted by Rob Richards on Wed, 09/07/2005 - 7:22pm.The part about the declaratio
Submitted by Rob Richards on Wed, 09/07/2005 - 7:36pm.As far as rapes and lootings and hordes of gangs with guns. I've heard MANY interviews with people who were or are actually there, and they deny it. They say there is some of that going on, but not to the extent to which some would lead, or like, us to believe.
If I read the declaration cor
Submitted by The Fire Inside on Wed, 09/07/2005 - 7:47pm.Here's the wikipedia for Mart
Submitted by Rob Richards on Wed, 09/07/2005 - 8:21pm.Here's the wikipedia for state of emergency
Wiki says of 'state of emergency' – Such declarations usually come during a time of natural disaster, during periods of civil unrest, or following a declaration of war (therefore, in democratic countries many call this martial law, most with non critical intent) –
This leads to me to believe that there is no difference.
From the Wikipedia article on
Submitted by The Fire Inside on Wed, 09/07/2005 - 8:31pm.The NRA should jump all over
Submitted by Rob Richards on Wed, 09/07/2005 - 8:23pm.Everyone should be jumping on
Submitted by Robert Whitlock on Wed, 09/07/2005 - 8:43pm.From Slate: "In practice, ho
Submitted by Rob Richards on Thu, 09/08/2005 - 12:45am."In practice, however, martial law has been all but barred since the late 19th century. During the Civil War, President Lincoln suspended habeas corpus and set up military courts in several states in the South and Midwest. Many at the time felt that Lincoln had superseded his authority, and in 1878 Congress passed the Posse Comitatus Act, which forbids the military from performing civilian law enforcement without congressional approval."
What I get from this is that it is unfair to lay blame on the governor for not declaring martial law when, A.) it does not exist in Louisiana law, and B.) because it was, basically, outlawed in the US 127 years ago.
A governor could still, in th
Submitted by The Fire Inside on Thu, 09/08/2005 - 6:33am.A lot of things can be done i
Submitted by Rob Richards on Thu, 09/08/2005 - 9:49am.Of course, that's going to de
Submitted by The Fire Inside on Thu, 09/08/2005 - 11:08am.The reason I believe that mos
Submitted by Rob Richards on Thu, 09/08/2005 - 11:47am.In response to the Oly NFZ or
Submitted by Rob Richards on Thu, 09/08/2005 - 12:39pm.Also, this is apples to oranges, a symbolic nuclear free ordinance is, in my mind, not comparable to declaring martial law.
Everyone should read this a
Submitted by Rob Richards on Thu, 09/08/2005 - 2:49am.The media is going to be allo
Submitted by The Fire Inside on Sat, 09/10/2005 - 6:52pm.This is amazing. Instead of
Submitted by Rob Richards on Sun, 09/11/2005 - 3:55pm.Tragedies happen from time to time and we are not immune to them. The 2000 election was a tragedy not because Bush won and I didn't vote for him. It was a tragedy because it was a failure of our political process. Whether you believe that the Bushies stole the election from Gore with the help of a conservative Supreme Court, or you believe Bush was the rightfull winner of the election, it's a fact that the majority of American voters did not vote for him. Doesn't this expose flaws in our system? Shouldn't the majority be represented no matter what the beliefs of the majority?
This leads to me to 9-11. It happened. On our soil. It was bad. Whether you believe that the Bushies were involved from day one in the planning and execution of the attacks or you believe that they were victims just like the rest of us, there was a breakdown in our system that allowed the PATRIOT Act to be passed without any major dissent and without even being read on the floor. Now, some people say that in times where their security is in question, they are willing to give up some rights if it makes them safer. I see no problem with this. I do have a problem when the same people promising me security via the PATRIOT Act, are changing the name "french" fries to "freedom" fries on the sole grounds that the French had a differing opinion than they did. It doesn't make me feel very secure, considering the fact that I too have differing opinions on issues than this administration does.
Now, the 2004 election is not as big a tragedy as the other events, but it did cause a vast number of people to simply lose hope in their fellow Americans to think and act in the best interest of all, and not just a few.
Hurricane Katrina, the most terrible thing to happen on our soil since the Civil War, was the biggest eye opener of all. The media woke up and people are waking up from a slumber that we've been in since Camelot. How can the Bushies ever tell us that they can protect us again? How can they ever tell the world that they are making it safer. I don't want to dive into the particulars of Katrina Week because thinking about it makes me physically ill, but THIS WAS BAD. People say: "this is not something that you expect to see in America". Well I don't think this is something you expect to see ANYWHERE.
My largest hope as we move out of this tragedy and attempt to go on with our lives is that we don't forget. I'm not talking about the victims, I'm talking about OUR government's response. The sight seeing of Condoleezza Rice and the real estate shopping of Dick Cheney, and the brush clearing of George Bush is what I'm talking about. Let's remember how incompetent Brown and Chertoff were when they actually had to do their jobs, not to mention how they got their jobs in the first place.
Let's remember to hold our leaders accountable so that something like this never happens again. The 2004 election was so terrible because it was as if the American people allowed themselves to be fooled twice. I hope, I believe, that now, finally, people are going to start to migrate out of the dark woods that we have all been living in for decades and demand representitive government. Demand that politicians operate with transparency. Demand that the media hold the government accountable. And, most importantly, vote in the best interest of our fellow citizens.
Rob, I found the comment "Sho
Submitted by The Fire Inside on Mon, 09/12/2005 - 8:12am.I could have clarified my tho
Submitted by Rob Richards on Mon, 09/12/2005 - 11:29am.I agree that the electoral college has done the job it was designed to do. I can't help but think, however, that it may be a bit antiquated at this point. I see nothing wrong with revisiting the Electoral Process and updating it for the 21st century. It was established in a time with a much smaller population, and much, much less communication technology. It's purpose at the time, if what I know is true, was to make an even playing field. Those in the wilderness of the western US (from the Mississippi to the Pacific) would have just as much say in choosing a president as those in the more populous east coast. It kept the people who had gone west from being ignored.
With the advent of the television, and especially the internet, this, in my opinion, is not as big of a concern.