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Submitted by enpen on Thu, 03/13/2008 - 2:30pm.
Last night (03/12/2008) I attended an "Oly Alley Project" presentation conducted by Ruth Snyder, a Code Enforcement Officer for Olympia, and Amy Stull, Olympia Police Department Senior Program Specialist. The purpose of the presentation was to bring together members of the ODA to further develop civic-business partnerships around the city's desires and plans for improving downtown alleyways.
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Edit: I edited the date of the event as I had written the wrong one.
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Thanks for the summary Jason
Submitted by Guglielmo on Thu, 03/13/2008 - 2:42pm.not announced
Submitted by enpen on Thu, 03/13/2008 - 2:47pm.And I found out about it relatively late. I'm hoping that they'll have another presentation for the DNA at the very least. If nothing else putting this up on OlyBlog may bring some more attention to the matter and get it more public and involved.
"In principle, I am an anarchist. Kurt Vonnegut once said he was an agnostic who respects Jesus Christ. I am an anarchist who loves democracy." - Kenzaburo Oe
olympian article?
Submitted by Robert Whitlock on Thu, 03/13/2008 - 3:32pm.Aldo Leopold: "We abuse land because we regard it as a commodity belonging to us. When we see land as a community to which we belong, we may begin to use it with love and respect."
It's an alley for christ's sake!!!!!
Submitted by Laurian on Thu, 03/13/2008 - 4:09pm.I was just about to post a comment about
Submitted by Guglielmo on Thu, 03/13/2008 - 4:28pm.word
Submitted by chad360 on Thu, 03/13/2008 - 4:33pm.we used the "c" word at the same time...
~ how odd ~
I'd rather...
Submitted by chad360 on Thu, 03/13/2008 - 4:31pm....walk by flowers & art than skid through feces, but I to be honest, I was trying to think of positive things to say...
...I'm just a bit burnt-out by civic processes that are a one-way street, so I'd thought to look on the bright side, but then again I'm way less proficient in the "dark arts" than a savvy alley connoisseur such as yourself >grin<
...ya never know, "they" might do something right...
>but I'm SO hoping that there is no garbage "beautification" elements<
Smoke proud!
not really Orwellian
Submitted by enpen on Thu, 03/13/2008 - 9:29pm.Natural surveillance is not about asking neighbors to turn each other in, rather it's based upon the assumption that most people are less likely to commit a crime while others may be watching. And while the notion of crime prevention was addressed far more time was spent on the idea of creating an attraction for people to come to Olympia (and drop off some cash).
As far as losing the alleys, the scope of the project is almost entirely North-South alleys so not all traditional alleyway aesthetic would be lost. Maybe we can start pushing for something akin to Madison's marijuana decriminalization municipal ordinance as a protective measure for preserving Oly tradition. Or just continue to rely on the fact(?) that few people in Olympia seem to think bud is a bad thing.
"In principle, I am an anarchist. Kurt Vonnegut once said he was an agnostic who respects Jesus Christ. I am an anarchist who loves democracy." - Kenzaburo Oe
This is what's so cooooool
Submitted by Meta Hogan on Sun, 04/13/2008 - 6:19pm.CJ at Cherry St.
Submitted by chad360 on Thu, 03/13/2008 - 4:09pm.Alley-Cats on the prowl!
>grin<
While frequenting the Cherry St Cafe (pictured above on left (the right store), opposite Peppers (mmm, yum!), I have come to an understanding that there is an historical undercurrent of renewal stretching back over 3 years & centered on these alley spaces~
~these "pearls of wisdom" were passed to me by one known as a member of a "clandestine" group "the Alley Cats"...
...I know at least one or two of these critters "lives" at the coffee roaster, so I'm hoping maybe we will all hear more from them soon =)
The dialog could become a dynamic "two-way street", and I hope this presentation was the first in a series of great changes in the real use of our shared built environment.
Olympia Coffee Roasting Company
Submitted by enpen on Thu, 03/13/2008 - 9:30pm.Was present and accounted for.
"In principle, I am an anarchist. Kurt Vonnegut once said he was an agnostic who respects Jesus Christ. I am an anarchist who loves democracy." - Kenzaburo Oe
>chuckle<
Submitted by chad360 on Fri, 03/14/2008 - 3:08pm.Inspiring
Submitted by Sarah on Fri, 03/14/2008 - 6:30am.I'm all for more murals! :)
Submitted by Chia on Fri, 03/14/2008 - 9:01am.---------
Nonviolence Includes Animals:
audio
"PETA President Ingrid E. Newkirk's address to the International Nonviolence Conference in Bethlehem"
agreed
Submitted by enpen on Fri, 03/14/2008 - 1:02pm.In fact, I'd be willing to bet that if we concentrated on getting our local artists some walls for murals or permanent installations downtown before steps I & II, that the process would actually work better as a way of bringing outsiders into downtown Olympia than going 1,2,3. I found it really interesting that they concentrated so much on the success of the mural projects in Philadelphia because that's how it worked there...first the murals...then people started taking more pride in their city...then people starting visiting the city just to see the public art...then the city had more money/incentive to make everything else look nice.
"In principle, I am an anarchist. Kurt Vonnegut once said he was an agnostic who respects Jesus Christ. I am an anarchist who loves democracy." - Kenzaburo Oe
Don't hate me for saying
Submitted by Chia on Fri, 03/14/2008 - 1:39pm.---------
Nonviolence Includes Animals:
audio
"PETA President Ingrid E. Newkirk's address to the International Nonviolence Conference in Bethlehem"
heh
Submitted by enpen on Fri, 03/14/2008 - 1:46pm.I like to walk at the mall in winter is because of the colors and entertaining things to browse.
That is almost word-for-word why I initially started looking at graffiti as art. Game changer it was in terms of changing my perception. Hilarious.
"In principle, I am an anarchist. Kurt Vonnegut once said he was an agnostic who respects Jesus Christ. I am an anarchist who loves democracy." - Kenzaburo Oe
I was blown away last year
Submitted by oysterpreserve on Sat, 04/19/2008 - 2:12pm.Yeah thanks Enpen...
Submitted by oldtimeydave on Fri, 03/14/2008 - 2:53pm.That was an awesome example of citizen journalism. it looks like the negative posts in response was limited to only one, which is rather good news in a way.
For me anything that brings the community togther to make it a more beautiful and positive place is a good thing. I love the ideas of alley art and murals, I like the idea of the downtown and surrounding community helping to decide some on some of the subject for the pieces too.
I'm pretty excited to see what comes of all of this but it is a huge positive step in the right direction...
PS just ignore the "buzz kill" folks and lets keep this a quality thread and a positive movement.
Dave White - "Old Timey Dave"
Oldtime Design & Beverage Blog
I agree
Submitted by enpen on Sat, 03/15/2008 - 12:06am.And some of the more simple solutions like rain gardens and lighting at night would go a long way toward encouraging people to randomly come together and interact as community.
And here's a video of people interacting with street art:
"In principle, I am an anarchist. Kurt Vonnegut once said he was an agnostic who respects Jesus Christ. I am an anarchist who loves democracy." - Kenzaburo Oe
hey, chill-out willya? =)
Submitted by chad360 on Sat, 03/15/2008 - 9:07am.Hommies! >chill<
...the comment was pretty good, OK? talking aesthetics is cool, gotta give a person their say, OK~
...and I have to admit, that I agree with the "fear-uncertainty-doubt" POV expressed in the comment, so all I'm saying is that there is some great content in that post and I think that we could focus on that...
The colorful language is OK in my opinion as long as hurtful intent isn't conveyed, and I sure didn't feel like the person posting the comment was really all that offensive...
I'd like to engage on the elements raised in addition to a the opinion expressed...
ODA focus, city response...
...feedback from "biz-folk" & "down-towners" ...how "spot-on" is the current agenda flowing out of the social networks of the ODA & PBIA? ...and for that matter the City of Olympia?
I'm certainly not trying to call anyone out here, nor be confrontational...
...I just wanted to express a small bit of acceptance and tolerance, and also to comment that I did find this thread stimulating, and really respect the CJ that precipitated these comments
No "buzz-kill" on my part, and trying to be positive~
Chance to Educate
Submitted by Ehver Green on Sat, 03/15/2008 - 10:47am.lighting is going up
Submitted by enpen on Sun, 04/13/2008 - 9:24am.The Free Wall alleyway is now lit (both E-W & N-S).


"In principle, I am an anarchist. Kurt Vonnegut once said he was an agnostic who respects Jesus Christ. I am an anarchist who loves democracy." - Kenzaburo Oe
very exciting
Submitted by Katherine on Mon, 04/14/2008 - 9:30am.I hope this means no more poop.
And I believe a neighboring business is footing the very small electrical bill associated with the lights. Even better, they are dark-sky, high efficiency fixtures. This was the result of collaboration of Code Enforcement (Ruth Snyder), the DNA and of course the building owners. Kudos to public/private collaboration! Long live the free wall!!!
another update
Submitted by enpen on Fri, 04/18/2008 - 10:09am.This is the alleyway next to the Fish Tail brewery.

"In principle, I am an anarchist. Kurt Vonnegut once said he was an agnostic who respects Jesus Christ. I am an anarchist who loves democracy." - Kenzaburo Oe
I think there should be a
Submitted by Ehver Green on Fri, 04/18/2008 - 10:43am.