by Enid Layes
The recent election in Olympia followed the pattern of elections elsewhere in these troubled economic times. It was a tough year for incumbents. Two of our finest council persons were defeated by, in my opinion, far less qualified challengers. Joan Machlis and Jeff Kingsbury are smart, thoughtful, progressive and courageous individuals; they always did their homework. I didn’t agree with every action or decision, but admired their work ethic and their integrity. They both deserve our very sincere thanks for serving the best interests of Olympia during their tenures on our City Council.
The election, however, provides a wake-up call for those of us who consider ourselves “progressives” -- citizens who want to create a liveable, economically vibrant, sustainable Olympia. Are we really going to continue to let the voters I call the “non-progressives” be the voice of our city? The groups opposing revitalization of downtown keep saying that state and federal governments and foundations will pay for repairs to Percival Landing, new parks and other amenities. This sounds like the cargo cult of the South Seas or the mythical peace dividend.
The non-progressives were highly motivated to cast their ballots and they got out their votes. They won, but I refuse to believe they represent a majority of voters. In a city with 27,669 registered voters, only 15,593 actually cast ballots on November 3rd – a 56% turnout! However, the narrow defeat (96 votes) for Joan Machlis, in particular, points out that the voters, despite their frustration with the economy, were not overwhelmingly in favor of tossing out incumbents who voted for the isthmus rezone. The election of Jeff Davis and Bill McGregor to the Port Commission shows that the larger community remains committed to thoughtful economic development in the heart of Olympia.
While the outcome of the city council races were a disappointment to many people interested in revitalizing our downtown, our economy and our tax base, the controversy of the last year and a half has caused more people to begin looking at what is going wrong in Olympia and to look for solutions. As the economy recovers and private capital starts looking for opportunities, Olympia needs to be ready to welcome investment and jobs. We will face tough competition from communities that have figured out what pays the bills for schools, cops, libraries and parks. Over the next year, our community will learn this math lesson the hard way. Unfortunately, it is too late for those who will suffer from cuts in vital services.
We need to join together, get to work, and devise a strategy that can achieve our goals.
Comments
I'm confused
Common ground
I agree with Laurian that one of the peculiar things about the last 18 months of city politics has been that lots of people who actually share many of the same civic and environmental goals have ended up devoting so much time, energy and money to struggling over what ought to happen on two city blocks.
I also agree that Oly 2012 has promoted a number of other good ideas (and done some serious analysis in support of them.)
The newsletter headlined this piece "Opinion/Editorial" so I don't know that it's fair to equate the rhetoric and claims of the author (Enid Layes) with "Olympia 2012's;" she's one person on their 11 member steering committee, which Joan Machlis, Michael Ryherd (who just retired from lobbying for the city), and Katherine Mahoney (the retiring president of the downtown Parking and Business Improvement Area board) just joined.
All that said, I think this particular editorial is out of touch with the facts in a number of ways. The notion that a 56% turnout does not represent "a majority of voters" and that the other 44% were Larida Passage enthusiasts who just stayed home seems ludicrous to me. Whatever else this election showed, the defeat of every pro-rezone candidate in the primary and the general - in the face of the paper's endorsements, the biggest spending on a Council race in the city's history, and Joan Machlis's many virtues - seems to me to make it as plain as one could that "a majority of voters" strongly disagree with 2012's and the departing incumbents' vision for the isthmus...
In addition to the other deficits people have pointed out in the argument, the claim that
is really dubious. Taxes pay the bills for schools, cops, libraries, and parks. Supporters of development in general as a Good Thing are always focused on the revenue it will bring; the costs that will come along as a result over the next years do not get the same attention.Some of these costs are direct - in this year's budget, the Council may take another step toward actually collecting enough money from developers to pay for the construction of the parks that their new projects will require the city to build. If they do that, we taxpayers will then only pay 30% of those extra bills we have new developments to thank for (about $1,700 for every new house) instead of paying half of those bills as we do now.
The other costs are indirect - downgrading the quality of people's lives. The outgoing Council just voted to allow the Bentridge development to go forward, even though the Olympia School District said that it had no financial basis for providing schools in that area for the almost 600 new houses that the developer wanted to build (and that it wanted to very significantly reduce the impact fees that the city collects to provide for building new schools!) As a result, more kids will be bussed, housed in portables, and required to change schools by the district's redrawing of boundaries.
People pay those intangible and tangible bills. Some development pays for them through revenues and fees, or through benefits in the community's quality of life - some doesn't.
Best,
Thad
Wow.
So many, many things wrong here. Where to start?
1. "Less qualified"? How establishment insider-ish of you. The only people who get to decide which candidates are qualified and which ones are not are the voters as a whole. The winning candidates all had excellent qualifications, just maybe not the ones you wanted. (And if you're talking about overall involvement in the community, go re-read Stephen Buxbaum's website.)
2."The best interests of Olympia"? Again, the majority of voters decides what is in their best interest. You don't get to decide all by yourself and then tell them.
3. "Progressives"? I strongly disagree that the losing candidates were the progressives, but then everyone has a slightly different definition of what "progressive" means. Rather than debate that, I will offer these hard, cold, quantifiable facts: In the precincts that tend to vote for Democrats, Stephen Buxbaum won. The stronger those precincts lean Democrat, the bigger he won. In the precincts that tend to vote Republican, Jeff Kingsbury won, The stronger those precincts lean Republican, the bigger he won. (This is especially interesting when you consider that, four years ago, the pattern was reversed, with Kingsbury winning the Democratic precincts. So, Kingsbury traded his Democratic voters away for Republican ones. That pretty much explains his entire career as a councilmember.)
4. "Opposing revitalization of downtown"? No one opposes revitalization of downtown (though some don't like the prefix "re-" because it suggests downtown has no vitality now). Many people have many different ideas of what that means. In particular, a lot of people think it does not involve tall buildings on one particular parcel on the waterfront, nor a public-funded conference center.
5. "Were highly motivated to cast their ballots"? As noted by others, this is a variation on the silent majority conceit. It is especially odd to see it used here, as a 56% turnout is very good for an off-year election. If several hundred people testifying or writing letters isn't enough, and 4,000 people signing petitions isn't enough, and 15,593 people voting isn't enough, how many is enough?
6. "The narrow defeat for Joan Machlis means that the voters were not overwhelmingly in favor of tossing out incumbents"? Whoa...completely lost touch with reality there. I suppose you could rephrase this to say voters were not overwhelmingly in favor of tossing out all incumbents, seeing as how Joe won. But let's come back to Joan. Joan is smart, thoughtful, friendly, and dedicated. She was better known than her opponent, and more involved in community issues. She campaigned hard, raised more cash, and won all the big name endorsements. Every political hack in town (including me) rated her a strong favorite to win. But she didn't. The voters' desire to toss out incumbents was so strong that even all of Joan's good qualities couldn't stop it. (This is not at all an insult to Jeannine. Jeannine had to -- and did -- be a good candidate and run a very good campaign to take advantage of the anti-incumbent mood. But Joan made herself vulnerable by being an incumbent who voted against the wishes of the electorate.)
7. "We need to join together, get to work, and devise a strategy that can achieve our goals"? If this is addressed to her fellow 2012 members who need to rethink their political strategy, fair enough. But if this is addressed to the larger community, a majority of whom disagree with her, I can say only this: Stop insulting us, stop trying to ram things down our throats, acknowledge that we also care about this community, and then we'll sit down and talk with you.
Kingsbury as a qualified candidate.
To clarify
Burr and Peter Stroble are the same person. Kind of like Robert Whitlock, Bert, and Berd are the same person. Or kind of like le Corbusier and Charles-Édouard Jeanneret-Gris are the same person. Anonymity, concealing one's identity, or even a cool, one-syllable handle are not off limits on Olyblog anyway, right rainy gray?
I have switeched back to Burr (which I initially used for anonymity's sake, in the same way you-know-who uses jlw) from my actual name because I realized that Google searches on my name were all coming up Olyblog, and I want to limit that a bit.
I didn't vote against Jeff
I voted for Steve Buxbaum, probably the most qualified city council candidate in decades.
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Thanks for clarifying
Burr or Chad, could you tell
Downtown Together
Here is the link to more information about the above mentioned meeting:
http://www.everydayolympia.com/downtown-together/
But! the meeting is on Holiday Hiatus and I haven't decided if and how I want to continue to meet.
mathias
einmaleins
invitation only & broadcast live <grin>
< after dinner thoughts >
Happy Holidays, and good too see everyone on the thread.
Face it Mathias, you have your hands on a hot potato...
...seriously, the temple that is free public forum is worth protecting, and your gracious stewardship with the Downtown Together MIXX Friday AM meetings so far has yielded fruit, and I thank you for your effort.
I hope you can take it to the next level, and create a public forum where folks would agree to a moderated forum, like a community-talk/op-ed radio or public access show. A place to chat, on-the-record, about Olympia (for those that want to talk and those that want to listen).
I appreciate Peter's passion to pursue his point(s), but today I realized belatedly (like when my wife came home and reminded me, funny how that works =), that I broke an informal yet understood agreement about the MIXX meetings, that agreement being to provide a safe place downtown at MIXX for dialog "off-the-record", and in my zeal to express myself, I contributed to a public dialog of content that took place at the meetings you coordinate & co-host. I'd appreciate your kindness if you would accept my apology for disrespecting the social space you have created and my acknowledgment of the resources you allocate to contribute to community.
My apology extends to the group as a whole (MIXX & OlyBlog), in the spirit of public dialog & seasonal cheer.
I apologize, as I honestly baited Peter on OlyBlog when Laurian posted Enid's 2012 Op-Ed.
I'm sorry I went fishing and I'm sorry he bit.
No explanation required
No explanation needed until OlyBlog requires identity based accounts but thanks for stepping up. Let's see if Rainy Gray will do the same.
That's what I mean about contentious
I don't think any reasonable folks took it that way
Really?
Good Lord...
laughing out loud
In response to your assertion that:
Two of our finest council persons were defeated by, in my opinion, far less qualified challengers.
I take exception to the "far less qualified" bit-
-I'm pretty sure that the candidates that got elected are way more qualified to lead.
Got any stats or facts to back-up your "opinion"?
My favorite red herring
is Ms. Layes version of the Silent Majority argument. She fixes on the Joan Machlis's razor thin loss to explain away the obvious lesson of the election while ignoring the trouncing Kingsbury and Sermonti took.
The creepy part is her clumsy attempt at re-defining Progressive.
Whoa, there, mathy mcmathwizard!
But Meta
The sad thing about this editorial is Oly 2012
word
Word Laurian, that was succinct.
I'd love to hear P. Stroble attempt to explain away this most recent 2012 salvo at the next MIXX meeting, as well as hearing more of his expert-informed opinions on how well Eastbay is going.
You're confusing me with you.
Chad - I think you're confused. It's been you that has purported to be the know-it-all on the detailed scientific challenges posed by that project. ("The engineers the Port hired are all unqualified - I wouldn't hire any of them"; "Arthur West knows more than anyone"; "Heartland: Morons, all of them!").
What I HAVE done is spoken directly - and in some cases even worked closely - with the environmental engineers directly involved in the East Bay clean-up project. I have also had detailed conversations with Jim Reinhardsen (the Principal at Heartland) on issues relating to my business (they do a lot of conservation work in the timber industry). Based on my hands-on work and conversations with the very people you have chosen to criticize at our "open-ended" Friday morning meetings, I have chosen to offer (or, I should say, try to offer when I can get a word in edgewise) my perspective on those professionals. I don't know the first thing about the technical and scientific specifics of the East Bay clean-up (like you claim to know), but I do think I am qualified, at least in part, to assess the competency of experts in those areas and offer my opinion as it relates to that assessment, since I do a lot of that sort of thing for a living. While I'd be the first to admit that I can be outspoken and boisterous at times, I do know when to shut up, listen, and respect another's point of view.
Unfortunately, your consistent actions at our MIXX 96 meetings have proven to me that you are unable to do the same. You seem uninterested in hearing another point of view or having an open, fair and honest debate about practically any issue. You dominate the discussion, you posture yourself as the expert on seemingly every last item that comes up for discussion, and you rarely let others hold the floor. I can't speak for everyone that attends those meetings, but I don't think the idea of them is to show up and listen to the chad 360 hour. I think that some people actually go to those meetings because they want to hear the counter arguments; they want to hear - in person - what OLY 2012 has to say; they want to hear what the other side has to say.
On that note, I am happy to keep going to those meetings and sharing my point of view (and yes, defending any 2012 "salvo"). But if you continue to dominate the meeting as if its your own radio talk show, I don't see the point in wasting my time. I doubt others do either, regardless of their positions.
P. Stroble
really?
<where to begin/why do I even bother?>
<OK> here goes...
To be specific to this thread, neither of us has the 30+ years experience that Buxbaum does, so where does Buxbaum "lack experience" compared to his predecessor? Please use detailed examples.
In any regard, we are both committed to seeing Olympia grow & prosper, and I know we both have much to give, so I'd caution you from burning any bridges or walking away (I hear what you are saying and I'll ruminate on your points, but I don't believe that you think Buxbaum lacks experience, and am curious why you'd even support that opinion).In response to your comment, I have listened just as much as I have contributed: I have sat through many of your "discussions" and find you to be just as "dominating" as you say I am...
...in fact, when Buxbaum sat in on one of the pre-election MIXX meetings, you pigeon-holed him with campaign questions until he asked you to stop (not to mention all the times that you, Thad, and Laurian go "round & round", but I figure that comes with the territory, and if I want to sit-in at MIXX, then I go with the flow). I'll also mention the time you interrupted my wife Elaine 5 times in a row when she was trying to get a word in edgewise (bet ya don't even remember do ya?), and she has attended the AM MIXX meetings only a few times (go figure).
I find sometimes that hearing your position is just as much a waste of my time as you say I waste yours, like when you marginalized the insight West has on development, how is your opinion any different than my viewpoints on Eastbay?
I'd say that the bulk of our friction comes from the fact that you are a self-appointed stakeholder/pseudo-lobbyist, and I just choose to live here, work free-lance, and remain an independent voice.
So, you can complain all you want, but if I remember correctly, you are defending the track record of Heartland and the Eastbay project and you verbally marginalize the contributions that West has made (you brought it up and put it on the table for discussion). If you find counter-points and outright disagreement unpalatable, then I'm not sure how committed you are to:
"...hearing another point of view or having an open, fair and honest debate ..." -Burr/Peter
And for the record, please don't disrespect my experience: I don't disrespect your chosen vocation or your self-admitted lack of technical or scientific expertise; can I at least expect the same courtesy from you?
<whew>
You're proving my point.
Chad:
Your approach to my criticism of your behavior further proves my point.
What is a "self-appointed stakeholder"? And, how is your "independent voice" any different from my "independent voice"?
Your clear implication that I have some sort of conflict of interest that should somehow discredit my voice is merely a variation of the approach you have taken in your criticism of Heartland and the East Bay engineers, among others. It's this sort of slanderous, Rovian, fear-mongering nonsense that I find totally unconstructive and lacking any type of self-honesty. After all, you do know me in person. We have spoken face-to-face, and I have offered you a completely open book into who I am and what my intentions are. You don't state things as a matter of opinion - not to mentioned supported opinion - just implied fact! (By the way, that Stroble guy - a pseudo-lobbyist! What's a pseudo lobbyist, you ask!? Don't worry 'bout it: what’s important is you know he's got a conflict of interest).
Your brand of discourse is what keeps me off of Olyblog most of the time, and frankly, is going to keep me coming from those meetings if you are there in your usual mode of operation. Perhaps that is what's best for the community you have in mind.
PAS
P.S. If you take a close look at Layes’ op-ed above, you may be able to get a sense of how an editorial comment is crafted. You may not like what she has to say. You may argue that she is wrong. But she's not spreading untruths to discredit her opponent.
Oh, your experience
How can I "disrespect your experience" when I don't have the slightest clue as to what it is you do or have done, despite the countless hours of your pontificating I have subjected myself to? I don't know your qualifications on these scientific matters any more than I know Arthur West's, which is to say, not at all.
Am I (are we) supposed to just sit back in those meetings and let you grace us with your untouchable knowledge of the world of environmental engineering and real estate development, or is it okay for us to question you on that until we are satisfied with the answer?
Gentlemen, take it outside
<my bad> word & op-ed critique
Sure Laurian, I need a breath of fresh air anyways...
...this gets old fast when PAS and this 2012 editorial seem to be the same thing, but you are correct, I shouldn't respond to anyone but the author and the folks that are commenting about the thread, not meta-talking. My bad. I got sucked in, and I'll just let it go (I'm still a super noob when it comes to commenting on 'blogs, OlyBlog being one of the only public sites I care to comment at regularly).
At this point, I'd sure love any facts, well-thought-out opinion, or just plain insight, as to why 2012 considers Councilmember-Elect Buxbaum as "...far less qualified..."
If I read this piece correctly, 2012 asking for community wholeness while speaking divisiveness is a mixed message at best, and I think this piece is designed to polarize the reader ("US vs THEM" mentality).
As my old debate & contest speaking coaches (and yes, I am a student government/model UN nerd) used to harp on, anytime someone needs to...
-use vague language instead of citing specifics
-doesn't name names
-or employs "made-up" terms
...that is an indicator the speaker/author either can't make the point they are trying to make with objective fact and/or they seek to influence a dialog with rhetoric.
Here is what I consider an example of poor op-ed writing:
The groups opposing revitalization of downtown keep saying that state and federal governments and foundations will pay for repairs to Percival Landing, new parks and other amenities. This sounds like the cargo cult of the South Seas or the mythical peace dividend.
Who said this, when, and for which group?
If this op-ed piece is a rallying point for "progressives*" in Olympia, then we are all in for an interesting ride.
*(whatever that meaningless word is supposed to mean in this context is beyond me)
BTW: Since this op-ed is about economic revitalization and "who really pays for what" in our community, I pose the question of paying taxes-
Should businesses, like TriWay, pay taxes on time?
And if not, why not?
Interesting Editorial
I think that progressive can be defined in a number of ways. The definition I prefer takes into account systematic privilege and oppression, and recognizes the very real need for social justice and deep ecological sustainability - the need to respect our environment as a community to which we belong, rather than a commodity to which we are entitled to exploit.
What I am most concerned with is the ongoing call for economic growth. Ms. Lays calls for an economically vibrant Olympia. But what does that really mean.
I think most people would agree that they want economic vitality and opportunity, and a modest prosperity that is available to all people.
But I am concerned about how we anyone could justify any net increase in economic activity given the current severity of deleterious environmental impacts.
The fact that there are so many people unemployed, so many people, and families, living in poverty beckons not a call for them to "work harder" to make ends meet - but instead a radical redistribution of wealth.
In America, some are made rich by outsourcing jobs to overseas locations (where ever the pay is the slightest.) Some are made rich through advancements in technology which allow them to reduce the amount of skilled labor necessary to conduct production activities.
This all results in a marginalization of the working and middle classes. This results in a reduction of job security and opportunity for a stable and secure economic livelihood.
Myth of Scarcity
It is a mythical notion that there is a scarcity of material and financial resources for everyone to comfortably get along. There is no basis in fact for this. In fact, there is plenty for everyone - if only the materials were to be distributed in an equitable manner.
However, the scarcity of jobs is real. And this scarcity is directly connected to the close relationships that exist between wealthy well-connected business class people and government.
What we need is government to protect us (as individuals and as a society) against the exploitations and environmental degradations wrought by big business.
It seems to me that common people have more influence over the local government (as partly evinced by the recent election cycle,) than over government at higher levels. Influence over State and Federal governments is solidly dominated by the various interests of the established owning class. (Not that the owning class is a monolith, nor that there isn't a diversity of views amongst the owning class, nor that owning class are necessarily against social justice or ecological sustainability... It's just that, in general, the interests of controlling large sums of wealth usually don't match up with social justice, with guaranteeing prosperity and freedom for all people, nor with true ecological sustainability, conservation, preservation, and restoration.)
So it makes sense to organize locally, and create the kind of economically vibrant community that all people can get behind, here at the local level. Not an easy task, but a task that all the more would be entirely worth the effort.
There are bonds that secure the various entrenched aspects of our socio-economic system firmly in place - there are points of fastening. This community is but one aspect of our socio-economic system, but if this community were to break free, then it would be a signal that other communities can do the same.
The economic vibrancy that I envision includes full employment, health care for all, an end to poverty, and holistic ecological sustainability - with a return to past levels of ecological health in the local ecosystems. (I read a story today about the amazing abundance and variety of life that once existed in Budd Bay -- that is, before the advent of widespread industrial activities.)
Anyway, that's some of what's on my mind regarding this.
"Big Business" in Olympia
Curious what counts as "big business" in Olympia?
Isn't the State and various GOV orgs a big component of the employment scene in Olympia?
I can't say that Triway is a big business entity in my mind (for example), and with the tax troubles that Tri Vo is having, I'm curious what the criteria may be to be considered a "big business/corporate heavy-hitter" here in the South Sound?
What's Big Business
I would say that big business is a matter of scale. Triway is big business relative to the environment it operates in.
Promotion to Front Page
Should this article be promoted to the front page? I realize that Laurian is not Enid Lays, nor a member of Oly 2012...
I guess I would appreciate people's thoughts about whether or not it makes sense to promote this piece to the front page of OlyBlog.net.
Open Source
It is posted on the Oly2012 website: The Oly2012 Newsletter – Issue #10
Go for it.
Oh, I see what's going on here
it worked!
Oh, I guess you are talking about the MIXX meeting?
Here I am thinking you meant 2012: I had not been to the 2012 website (which looks nice), so I went and signed up for the newsletter. This group website is nifty and I enjoyed looking through the archived newsletters and community meeting postings.
I think the "non-progressive" element in our community could learn from how 2012 puts it all together online, and I especially like the "Call to Action" spots-
-I'd love to see 2012 weigh in on the visitor accommodations and amenities topic in Olympia (2012's third "We Believe" topic, re: http://oly2012.org/about/ ).
But, on the second reading (to be honest), the op-ed sends me the thinly veiled message that Buxbaum doesn't stand on his own merits, and was only selected (as insinuated by the author) because reactionary elements of the community brought the vote (polarized on the isthmus issue), and used Buxbaum to oust Kingsbury. That is such a distasteful position and crude "analysis".
So, while I keep an open mind about 2012, I'm skeptical of any group that would post that kind of position piece on the website, and I'd certainly never ask an organization I volunteer with, that purports to represent the majority of Olympians, to support such divisive rhetoric.