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Submitted by enpen on Wed, 08/29/2007 - 4:44am.

So one of the things I like to keep tabs on with OlyBlog is the list of the top referrers to this site. It's a nice 3-day snapshot of where external OlyBlog interest is coming from. Since I took on site administration duties Google search has been the source of over 1000 "hits" every time I've checked, without fail. Until today.

For those of you who don't know, the web search field is seen as pretty important by people who like advertising money. So why is any of this interesting? Well, today is the first time I've ever seen Microsoft live in the top 10. And I couldn't help but notice it coinciding with the first time I've ever seen Google source less than 1000 hits.

OlyBlog as zeitgeist of our wired times.

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Yeah!!!  It's only going to

Yeah!!!  It's only going to get better.  Try LIVE the next time you search!  You can personalize your page to display what's important - weather, traffic, stocks, news stories, etc.  Make it your homepage!  And, if you don't want to change your current homepage, are using IE7, then keep on readin'...     

You can have more than one homepage with IE7 tabbed browsing.  Simply enter each site you want to open on it's own line in the homepage field.  Tools -> Internet Options -> General tab.

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I know they put food on your table, but

Speaking for myself, and not for any organization that I may happen to work for...

I wouldn't touch anything Microsoft if they were giving away gold bars.

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So... I'll ask you to

So... I'll ask you to elaborate.  Care to do so?  Is it stricly about big business or do you have more meat I can chew on?  I'm not going to offer you any substance on Microsoft as a corporation but will address technical and legitimate use concerns.

Believe me, Rob, this won't be the first time I've had to defend our software and business approach (closed IP vs. open source).  Often I decline the dialog because I'm not authoritative for the company.  I try to address what I can without overstepping my bounds.

Your last sentence is a lie, Steven (Nacho Libre)! =)

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Business practices are

Business practices are certainly a concern. The monopoly issues, the proprietary standards, the labor used in manufacturing, etc.

Three and half years ago, I switched to Mac. I bought a brand new PowerBook G4. After learning how to really use it, I fell in love. I honestly don't understand why everyone (I realize price is a barrier) doesn't own a Mac. From time to time I have to use Windows and it's terrible for me. The number of clicks it takes me to do something in Windows really frustrates me, it feels clunky, it's interface is not as user friendly, I don't like where the Ctrl keys are located on the keyboard because it slows down my use of shortcuts, there are other gripes that I can't think of right now, I'm sure. David Pogue once pointed out that in order to shut down a Windows machine you press a button called "Start".

I really believe the Mac designers (software and hardware)are head and shoulders above their Microsoft counterparts. The magnetic power chord on mew Mac laptops is a prime example of problem solving via innovative design.

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game time

Go..Team...Go....He shoots he scores!!!!!!
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Um, he scored how?  Because

Um, he scored how?  Because he can't figure out how to use the Ctrl key on a Windows keyboard?  Game over...
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Maybe they're still

playing Pong.
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Business practices I won't

Business practices I won't touch.  The monopoly issue was addressed by the DOJ and EU and we still have oversight on the desktop, especially Vista and IE.  I grant you that.  Standards?  Sorry, but you are absolutely wrong here.  You want to talk about bucking standards, look no further than Apple and how proprietary they are (always have been).  Microsoft is a leader in pushing standards - proven time and time again - they aren't always widely accepted.  What I believe you are referring to is our unwillingness to break standards for the sake of fringe efforts.  It's the right thing to do, sorry you feel differently.  Do some research on Microsoft's RFC contributions and XML in general.  We play nice when invited - otherwise, of course, we need to chart our own path.

All of the reasons in your second paragraph are quite honestly without merit (sound familiar?).  If these are your only complaints we're doing quite well.  You are talking about user experience here.  There's a trade-off to be made when you make software that actually runs business environments.  I'm certain we could do better.  In fact, I know we can - it's a matter of what is more important, where Shut Down lives or whether Shut Down works.  Ctrl key locations cause you problems?  Maybe you need to adapt to the keyboard or find a keyboard that suits you better.  I've not heard this one before...

You are certainly entitled to your opinion but more folks leave Apple for Microsoft than the other way around.  I'm not sure you have any evidence that Apple (Mac) designers have better skills than Microsoft Research (in fact, MSR is continually recognized for significant contributions to computing).  They (Apple) are allowed to think outside the box much more freely than Microsoft developers.  It's a different culture and different set of problems we are trying to solve.

Where was your PowerBook made again?  How about your iPod (if you've got one)?  iPod manufacturing plants weren't even paying employees $50 a week.  Microsoft is just as guilty of hardware manufacturing outside of the US.  China owns all of us here.

And finally, I certainly don't know what we'd do without a magnetic power chord, oh my!  Really, if this is your argument for superior innovation then you haven't looked deep enough at Microsoft's accessibility efforts.  My uncle Mike is paralyzed from the neck down and thanks to Microsoft and Microsoft partners, he is employeed by the Department of Revenue as a programmer.  Yeah, I said paralyzed from the neck down and he codes.  This is just one area where our focused efforts make a difference in the world.

You'd have done yourself a favor just not posting on this one at all.

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I really respect your

I really respect your loyalty, and would expect nothing less. I never made this personal, yet you kind of did, I think. I think the Bill & Melinda Foundation is amazing, yes, Microsoft does some pretty awesome things. They do some pretty f'd up things to in regards to their competition, but that's capitalism I guess. You're certainly right about Mac and manufacturing in China, f that s. I think it's also true that Macs are made for different users than MS's. Macs are made for "fun" and MS has a more business system approach. I think maybe that's why the I complain. Mac makes a computer just for me and my life, MS provides a computer made for everybody in the world. It's the difference between cooking a meal for two and cooking a meal for three hundred. The meal for 300 is not going to appeal to as many folks as the meal cooked just for them.
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I took it personally, so I

I took it personally, so I responded in kind.  No love lost - I'm all better now.  Apologies for my edge.
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But you just did...

by sending your words to my machine.

No Mac is an island Rob.

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shut yer trap

that's all, just shut it.
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There.

You just did it again. Sell out! You're probably eating boycotted grapes while sending out messages to Windows platforms.
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grapes, funny

i hate you! i hate you! i hate you!
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Wait until Rob drives a car,

Wait until Rob drives a car, nearly hits someone in the crosswalk, buys something at Bayview (probably a can of Coke since apparently labor agitators in Columbia have been murdered by Corporate orders), orders a necklace made at Nutters, calls 911 on a spraypainter and tells someone to get a job. Then you'll really have something on him.

I'll buy you another beer for this one Rob.

It's a fair call, but Society's to blame. ~ Right! We'll be charging them too!

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Geeez....rough audience

Ehver will understand this one -

Back in 2000, I'm playing a single across the street from the Capital - Olivers NW.  In those days, I recorded my back tracks in my studio and played live guitar and vocals against them (nope..not karaoke - I CREATED the tracks, keys, bass, drums).  To break the monotony of guitar solos all night, I purchased a Roland synth that would mask in all sorts of instuments at the flip of a switch.  My favorites were harmonica, violin, brass (woodwinds sounded phoney, except flute) and an occasional B-3 organ.

I arrive at the gig early and as I'm setting up, I realized that I was missing my Roland 13 pin patch cord.  I called 6000 as fast as I could, and sure as heck, they had one.....FOR $69.00!!!!!!!!!!

69 bucks for some wires and pins????????  Proprietary is the name of the game in business.  If "you da man" then you charges what you wish, until someone else can "be da man".  I think Roland STILL has the market cornered on that stuff.

"There is only one race, the human race" - The Neville Brothers

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We played a house party in

We played a house party in Issaquah a few weeks ago and I forgot the powered PA!  Had everything but the PA and I was pissed (it's a big PA, how did I miss it?).  Well, we only use the PA for vocals so I improvised and used my backup amp (2x12) for vocals and it worked pretty well!  Good thing I always carry an XLR to 1/4" adapter with me...

And yes, Roland still dominates here - although, software innovations have come a long way in reducing the need for hardware.

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I still have love for

I still have love for microsoft. Vista seems decent, and I liked XP. I haven't fully forgiven them for windows millenium edition though...and 98 before second edition was issued. Their games are a lil crappy, but I can get over that.

Rob, I'd LOVE to buy a mac but you said it yourself, they are spendy. I can build myself a decent machine (sans monitor) that can run most games, do all the other crud I want, for a couple hundred dollars....or I can buy a mac mini. The mac mini looks very cool, but it's performance wouldn't touch the pc I built, or the other macs, not to mention all of the software issues, the gaming issues etc. If I had extra money coming out my ears I'd buy one though. Ricks laptop was a hoot to play around with at the broho.

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From The Olympian via

From The Olympian via AP:

Microsoft loses vote on file standards

"...prompted Microsoft to seek recognition of Open XML by the global standards body, an effort that was backed by Apple Inc., Novell Inc. and the Library of Congress."

Like I said, we play nice if invited!

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