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Submitted by Rob Richards on Fri, 11/09/2007 - 10:17pm.
I have a passion for journalism, it's something I enjoy very much. I know that it comes with certain ethics. I have learned my set of ethics from "The Elements Of Journalism" by Kovachs and Rosenstiel. This book lays out very carefully and comprehensively what a journalist should expect from his reader, and what readers should expect from their journalists.
» Many articles I have read in The Olympian lately, no matter the reporter, have lacked journalistic integrity. Many one-sided articles appear and then are challenged by letters to the editor, this is happening more and more. What we've witnessed today, and what will likely continue with tomorrow's article, has the appearance of a blatant political attack on a progressive candidate. I predict that in the near future, I imagine sometime within the three day news cycle, we will see an editorial column penned by Mike Oakland and "approved" by the editorial board that further derides Meta for what they must consider egregious campaign expenditures. From the reaction I've read so far, with a few exceptions, people seem to feel that while she may have spent unwisely, she owned up to it, payed it back, and that we should move on. All of this makes me wonder what Mike Oakland's motivations are in all of this. Someone suggested that perhaps he's trying to effect the nomination for Doug Mah's empty seat. I think at this point anything is possible. I believe that something needs to be done about our dearth of real, objective news coverage in Olympia. An economic boycott is not possible and would never work, because without a viable alternative we will never convince enough people to quit reading The Olympian. Our only hope, in my mind, is to create that alternative ourselves. We don't need a dime to do it either (except the costs of keeping this site up). We do it by directly challenging The Olympian story by story. What I did today took me an hour on the phone checking facts and asking questions, that included questioning Matt Batcheldor and Mike Oakland themselves. I simply started with what was given me by the article and called the PDC, then the Olympian, and that's how I got the real story. Any of us are capable of this. It is our duty and responsibility to be informed citizens and I think we should start taking that seriously. With OlyBlog, we can help others be more informed as well, and that is powerful. Perhaps this extra focus would help get us away from the argumentative, angry atmosphere that we keep sliding toward.
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The Sitting Duck
Submitted by DC on Fri, 11/09/2007 - 10:48pm.Has distribution.
Has readers.
Would seem to love challenging traditional print media sources in Olympia.
Are any of the contributors on OlyBlog associated with the paper?
Maybe OlyBlog should be...
Many media sources, pick one that matches your delusions :-)
Submitted by security_six on Fri, 11/09/2007 - 11:29pm.We let you post...
Submitted by Rick on Fri, 11/09/2007 - 11:38pm....and that takes quite a bit of tolerance.
When you think of the long and gloomy history of man, you will find more hideous crimes have been committed in the name of obedience than have ever been committed in the name of rebellion. -C.P. Snow
letting me post
Submitted by security_six on Fri, 11/09/2007 - 11:48pm.But you haven't...
Submitted by Rick on Fri, 11/09/2007 - 11:56pm....asked any questions yet. We have all types of opinions here, but we try to be nice to each other. If you can be civil, then you'll find OlyBlog to be very welcoming. If you want a place to vent anger or say mean things, there are plenty of other places to hang out.
When you think of the long and gloomy history of man, you will find more hideous crimes have been committed in the name of obedience than have ever been committed in the name of rebellion. -C.P. Snow
Very well, a question
Submitted by security_six on Sat, 11/10/2007 - 12:02am.It seems to me...
Submitted by Rick on Sat, 11/10/2007 - 12:17am....that most of your questions about Meta were answered by in the other thread. Small expenses that should have been handled differently. I wouldn't have thought any different if it had been Mah. It seems to me like a cheap shot from the Olympian against a non-establishment candidate. That's disappointing. I expect more maturity from a newspaper.
Meta has made more of a difference for people in this town (by directly helping people who have nothing) than Mah will ever do. I met a women today who said that the only reason that she is not homeless now is because of Meta. It's not the first time I've heard the same thing from others.
She has good ideas, and would be a great council member.
When you think of the long and gloomy history of man, you will find more hideous crimes have been committed in the name of obedience than have ever been committed in the name of rebellion. -C.P. Snow
It is a bad thing if
Submitted by Guglielmo on Sat, 11/10/2007 - 9:26am.PDC investigating
Submitted by security_six on Sat, 11/10/2007 - 11:28am.The Olympian has every write to go to the PDC
Submitted by Guglielmo on Sat, 11/10/2007 - 2:09pm.Does she qualify?
Submitted by Ehver Green on Sat, 11/10/2007 - 2:13pm.So....
Submitted by security_six on Sat, 11/10/2007 - 4:22pm.You mean...
Submitted by Rick on Sat, 11/10/2007 - 4:35pm....taking a well-deserved vacation?
Don't make up stuff that isn't there, ok?
When you think of the long and gloomy history of man, you will find more hideous crimes have been committed in the name of obedience than have ever been committed in the name of rebellion. -C.P. Snow
six, they were planning to go out of town for some time
Submitted by Guglielmo on Sat, 11/10/2007 - 4:40pm.So, SS
Submitted by Norm on Fri, 11/09/2007 - 11:40pm.Ruger fan..
Submitted by security_six on Fri, 11/09/2007 - 11:54pm.Just not a term I read very often
Submitted by Norm on Sat, 11/10/2007 - 12:24am.hey
Submitted by Rob Richards on Sat, 11/10/2007 - 10:39am.Oh C'mon!
Submitted by Norm on Sat, 11/10/2007 - 7:26pm.Possibly
Submitted by Rob Richards on Fri, 11/09/2007 - 11:10pm.I know lots of people who
Submitted by Merwyn Haskett on Sat, 11/10/2007 - 9:02am.Up North there's the Stranger and The Seattle Weekly; they're only weekly but they have the same kind of impact as the homogenous dailies. Their reach goes beyond Seattle, there's a reason I'm more familiar with Seattle's City Hall, their agenda, and neighborhood happenings than with my own city (not counting, of course, information I learn on OlyBlog.)
Having a more dedicated Olympia News Source online would be a good idea, but for it to work the word would have to be put out farther than the smoking patio at The Brotherhood. Flyers and posters would have to be left at every legal location, not just the usual places where WIP and The Duck can be found. Somebody would have to be willing to pay for some advertisement, and (again) not just in The Duck or Volcano. As much as I love KAOS plugging it on one of the shows would only do so much as well. The word would have to be out where people who otherwise would never know can find it. And it has to stay there.
The following isn't meant as a slam. These flyers, especially if they're going to obviously be homemade, cannot emphasize the activism for any position other than integrity of journalism. Same for any articles that would be posted. I'm not saying don't cover issues that The Olympian ignores or misreports, but for it to be taken seriously by most of Olympia, which would include businesspeople, conservatives, and rednecks, we have to keep opinions in their section and out of the who-what-when-where-why-how of the news.
It's the same old story - Everywhere I go, I get slandered, Libeled, I hear words I never heard in the bible
good ideas
Submitted by DC on Sat, 11/10/2007 - 9:50am.Journalistic integrity - yep
Non-partisan reporting - yep
Opinions in their place - yep
About that last one, what do you think larger membership would do to the comment environment here? Especially considering the audience you mentioned at the end.
Do you think more voices will create more heated discussion than before? Or balance things a bit?
As for promotion, has anyone running the site explored SEO?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Search_engine_optimization
When I search "Olympia News" Olyblog is at the bottom of the second results page. That's not terrible, but online promotion today starts with search engine presence.
I don't have all the answers
Submitted by Merwyn Haskett on Sat, 11/10/2007 - 10:00am.Salon.com allows online commentary, almost every article brings in hundreds of comments. Granted they can pay someone to moderate, but the moderations seem to be consistent. They have an option where you can read all comments, or the editors picks, and I've noticed that the picks often include both sides as long as they were well-written and had something of substance to offer.
In all communities there's going to be people who think the purpose of forums is to flame. Proper moderation will keep them in check.
It's the same old story - Everywhere I go, I get slandered, Libeled, I hear words I never heard in the bible
I think comments could be
Submitted by Rob Richards on Sat, 11/10/2007 - 10:49am.As far as fliers go, that's
Submitted by Rob Richards on Sat, 11/10/2007 - 10:47am.On Topic
Submitted by Ehver Green on Sat, 11/10/2007 - 4:53pm.I sure hope nobody here is the a-hole posting under Tschida's handle on The Olympian's forum. I'm probably wrong, though.
Tschida's comment (there are a few others). Certainly not Chris' voice I wouldn't think.
I Wondered The Same Thing
Submitted by JstPlnOnry on Sat, 11/10/2007 - 4:55pm.The posts there under his name are just the opposite of most I've read from Tschida here.
"Do not mistake for conspiracy and intrigue what can best be explained by stupidity and incompetence." - Unknown