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Submitted by Rob Richards on Fri, 11/09/2007 - 10:17pm.
I have a passion for journalism, it's something I enjoy very much. I know that it comes with certain ethics. I have learned my set of ethics from "The Elements Of Journalism" by Kovachs and Rosenstiel. This book lays out very carefully and comprehensively what a journalist should expect from his reader, and what readers should expect from their journalists.

Many articles I have read in The Olympian lately, no matter the reporter, have lacked journalistic integrity. Many one-sided articles appear and then are challenged by letters to the editor, this is happening more and more.

What we've witnessed today, and what will likely continue with tomorrow's article, has the appearance of a blatant political attack on a progressive candidate. I predict that in the near future, I imagine sometime within the three day news cycle, we will see an editorial column penned by Mike Oakland and "approved" by the editorial board that further derides Meta for what they must consider egregious campaign expenditures. From the reaction I've read so far, with a few exceptions, people seem to feel that while she may have spent unwisely, she owned up to it, payed it back, and that we should move on.

All of this makes me wonder what Mike Oakland's motivations are in all of this. Someone suggested that perhaps he's trying to effect the nomination for Doug Mah's empty seat. I think at this point anything is possible.

I believe that something needs to be done about our dearth of real, objective news coverage in Olympia. An economic boycott is not possible and would never work, because without a viable alternative we will never convince enough people to quit reading The Olympian. Our only hope, in my mind, is to create that alternative ourselves. We don't need a dime to do it either (except the costs of keeping this site up). We do it by directly challenging The Olympian story by story. What I did today took me an hour on the phone checking facts and asking questions, that included questioning Matt Batcheldor and Mike Oakland themselves. I simply started with what was given me by the article and called the PDC, then the Olympian, and that's how I got the real story. Any of us are capable of this. It is our duty and responsibility to be informed citizens and I think we should start taking that seriously. With OlyBlog, we can help others be more informed as well, and that is powerful. Perhaps this extra focus would help get us away from the argumentative, angry atmosphere that we keep sliding toward.

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The Sitting Duck

Has distribution.

Has readers.

Would seem to love challenging traditional print media sources in Olympia.

Are any of the contributors on OlyBlog associated with the paper?

Maybe OlyBlog should be...

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Many media sources, pick one that matches your delusions :-)

Ya know, I don't think Hogan should have made the purchases she did, and it is clearly spin on her part that she was "honest" about them. Let's face it, the woman was broke and needed smokes and bath salts. I think it is the duty of any responsible media source to bring questionable spending like this forward. Many people have issues with so-called "established media" and will blindly give it attributes because they have been conditioned to believe certain ways about certain things. I have contacted the editorial staff of The O several times and always got a prompt and satisfactory reply. And no I am not plugging for them, just stating what I have done. I have lived in Oly about a year, and never stopped being amazed at how much hate and intolerance the "liberals" have for anything outside of their limited worldview. Grow up please. This place could be a much better place to live.
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We let you post...

...and that takes quite a bit of tolerance.


When you think of the long and gloomy history of man, you will find more hideous crimes have been committed in the name of obedience than have ever been committed in the name of rebellion. -C.P. Snow
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letting me post

Rather generous of a group that wants people who care about their community isn't it? I don't understand. I care deeply about my community and I believe that some recent actions are hurting the community and not helping it. Tolerance swings both ways you know. If a page invites opinions then they should be prepared for ones they do not like as well as ones they embrace, otherwise they are no better than the mythical "controlled media." I'm sorry I'm not a greener, or a liberal, or even a guitar player. Just a guy who does not see things through the same eyes as the popular fringe groups of Oly. I am something worse, a libertarian and an asker of questions.
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But you haven't...

...asked any questions yet. We have all types of opinions here, but we try to be nice to each other. If you can be civil, then you'll find OlyBlog to be very welcoming. If you want a place to vent anger or say mean things, there are plenty of other places to hang out.


When you think of the long and gloomy history of man, you will find more hideous crimes have been committed in the name of obedience than have ever been committed in the name of rebellion. -C.P. Snow
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Very well, a question

As comments in and of themselves seem a bad thing from me.. Why is it okay for Hogan to buy personal items with campaign dollars and why is it a bad thing for the newspaper to call her on it? Is not that the duty of media to be a public watchdog? What if Doug Mah had made purchases like this? Would you still but upset if it was made public? I met Ms. Hogan once and it was not a favorable impression, indecissive, random, and not leadership material. So is it a bad thing to have questionable spending reported?
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It seems to me...

...that most of your questions about Meta were answered by in the other thread. Small expenses that should have been handled differently. I wouldn't have thought any different if it had been Mah. It seems to me like a cheap shot from the Olympian against a non-establishment candidate. That's disappointing. I expect more maturity from a newspaper.

Meta has made more of a difference for people in this town (by directly helping people who have nothing) than Mah will ever do. I met a women today who said that the only reason that she is not homeless now is because of Meta. It's not the first time I've heard the same thing from others.

She has good ideas, and would be a great council member.


When you think of the long and gloomy history of man, you will find more hideous crimes have been committed in the name of obedience than have ever been committed in the name of rebellion. -C.P. Snow
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It is a bad thing if

the Olympian does not make it clear that they were the ones to go to the PDC first. Instead they made it sound like the PDC was already "investigating" Meta. They were not. Also, campaign funds may be spent on personal items if they are beyond the amount the candidate would spend outside of the campaign. It was a bad move to admit to spending $30 on smokes. She should have reported it like Doug reported his $50 and under expenditures, without detail. She should have hiden it. We get the politians we deserve, don't we.
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PDC investigating

The Olympian pointed out the strange expenses to the PDC, the PDC started to investigate. The PDC was already investigating the expenses when the article went to press. Big deal. I personally like The O, and think it is a nice little paper. Having suffered through such crap papers as the San Diego Union Tribune, hateful gun grabbing papers like The LA Times, and "The Blethens are the greatest people in the world" papers like the Seattle Times I find the Olympian to be much more relaxing. And what does the TNT have to offer Olympia? Color comics? Pierce County news? If I want a broader world view I read the BBC. If I want local news I read a local newspaper. Don't like a an alleged spin on something? Try writing to the people who run things. I keep reading print media is losing market share, I imagine they will want to listen to people who could make up part of their market. I see this as more of a slam against "the man" and "established media" than any true concerns about journalistic integrity. Newspapers don't win awards for being crap.
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The Olympian has every write to go to the PDC

but they should tell their readers about it. It is important because Doug old council seat is now open and Meta could apply for it. It is important for everyone to be open about who's doing what. I think we can agree that transparancy is good thing for everyone.
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Does she qualify?

I've not seen the requirements and haven't had time to look in depth.
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So....

How wonderful it is that she just happens to be out of state unreachable...
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You mean...

...taking a well-deserved vacation?

Don't make up stuff that isn't there, ok?


When you think of the long and gloomy history of man, you will find more hideous crimes have been committed in the name of obedience than have ever been committed in the name of rebellion. -C.P. Snow
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six, they were planning to go out of town for some time

for some much needed rest and relaxation after the campaign. You can find them someone on the Oregon coast if it's an emergency.
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So, SS

Are you a ruger fan?
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Ruger fan..

Naw, I like Smiths :-) Yeah, am hard pressed to want to buy anything else...
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Just not a term I read very often

They were decent guns back in the day. I prefer smith's myself, but the SP101's are pretty decent lil .357's.
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hey

how about starting a thread about guns, partner?
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Oh C'mon!

It was 3 whole posts.
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Possibly

The Sitting Duck is a monthly paper though. It can't compete with the Olympian as far as news coverage goes, it doesn't have the money or the staff. It would be impossible to print a daily paper without owning a press that could churn out enough to make it worthwhile, and those things are prohibitively expensive. Unless we could somehow convince a big news company to come and compete here, I think online is the only way.
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I know lots of people who

I know lots of people who get the Tribune because they can't stand The Olympian; unfortunately they're sacrificing local coverage.

Up North there's the Stranger and The Seattle Weekly; they're only weekly but they have the same kind of impact as the homogenous dailies. Their reach goes beyond Seattle, there's a reason I'm more familiar with Seattle's City Hall, their agenda, and neighborhood happenings than with my own city (not counting, of course, information I learn on OlyBlog.)

Having a more dedicated Olympia News Source online would be a good idea, but for it to work the word would have to be put out farther than the smoking patio at The Brotherhood. Flyers and posters would have to be left at every legal location, not just the usual places where WIP and The Duck can be found. Somebody would have to be willing to pay for some advertisement, and (again) not just in The Duck or Volcano. As much as I love KAOS plugging it on one of the shows would only do so much as well. The word would have to be out where people who otherwise would never know can find it. And it has to stay there.

The following isn't meant as a slam. These flyers, especially if they're going to obviously be homemade, cannot emphasize the activism for any position other than integrity of journalism. Same for any articles that would be posted. I'm not saying don't cover issues that The Olympian ignores or misreports, but for it to be taken seriously by most of Olympia, which would include businesspeople, conservatives, and rednecks, we have to keep opinions in their section and out of the who-what-when-where-why-how of the news.

It's the same old story - Everywhere I go, I get slandered, Libeled, I hear words I never heard in the bible

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good ideas

Journalistic integrity - yep

Non-partisan reporting - yep

Opinions in their place - yep

About that last one, what do you think larger membership would do to the comment environment here? Especially considering the audience you mentioned at the end.

Do you think more voices will create more heated discussion than before? Or balance things a bit?

As for promotion, has anyone running the site explored SEO?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Search_engine_optimization

When I search "Olympia News" Olyblog is at the bottom of the second results page. That's not terrible, but online promotion today starts with search engine presence.

 

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I don't have all the answers

I don't have all the answers for better comment environments; besides, I'm often caustic and cynical myself.

Salon.com allows online commentary, almost every article brings in hundreds of comments. Granted they can pay someone to moderate, but the moderations seem to be consistent. They have an option where you can read all comments, or the editors picks, and I've noticed that the picks often include both sides as long as they were well-written and had something of substance to offer.

In all communities there's going to be people who think the purpose of forums is to flame. Proper moderation will keep them in check.

It's the same old story - Everywhere I go, I get slandered, Libeled, I hear words I never heard in the bible

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I think comments could be

I think comments could be moderated by users, using a Digg system. We used to have a rating system but it was too much. We need easy yes/no style buttons.
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As far as fliers go, that's

As far as fliers go, that's not too hard. We would need to seek out underwriters so we could keep it ad free, and avoid the business side. I think we start with a fundraiser among the membership to pay for printing costs of leaflets and flyers. Then send out a letter asking for underwriters from the community. I think there are enough people that are fed up with the Olympian that we could do it. I think before any of that though we have to figure out more of the details. Raising money would come after a lot of planning.
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On Topic

I sure hope nobody here is the a-hole posting under

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I Wondered The Same Thing

The posts there under his name are just the opposite of most I've read from Tschida here.

 

 

"Do not mistake for conspiracy and intrigue what can best be explained by stupidity and incompetence." - Unknown

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