User login

Who's online

There are currently 15 users and 115 guests online.

Online users

  • Guglielmo
  • Ehver Green
  • Just another voice
  • einmaleins
  • Katherine
  • Peter Alden Stroble
  • summerc
  • waterbucks
  • Rob Richards
  • Berd

Support OlyBlog

OlyBlog is run by volunteers who care about Olympia. If you like what we're doing, make a donation:

OlyBlog is powered by:

Who's new

  • Josopler
  • jasonla
  • Jododp
  • Jfodfie
  • GregDiablo

    Creative Commons License
 
Submitted by security_six on Thu, 11/22/2007 - 9:28pm.

belief, attitude and the way you carry and present yourself count for more than anything else in my mind.  Those who believe themselves to be of an underprivileged class tend to find themselves treated as such.  Those who believe they are equal to anyone tend to find themselves treated as such.  Make of this what you will.

 

»

It's like that one rule:

It's like that one rule: Don't look like a tourist, act like you know exactly what you're doing. The sharks and weasels look for the obvious marks and go after them first.

I wonder if that's why I've never been accosted or bothered in downtown even though, to hear the whackjobs at That Other Site, downtown Olympia is a dangerous place where every three steps you're aggressively hit up for change and every other loiterer is supposedly a sex predator. I'm not a big guy, my arms look like spaghetti, and I don't pack heat so it must be the way I carry myself.

(Or maybe the privilege I was born in keeps the danger away.)

Please give me a second grace. Please give me a second face. I've fallen far down, the first time around, now I just sit on the ground in your way.
Nick Drake

»

I get hit up for change

Even when packing heat.  As so many people have an unreasoning fear of guns, I figure that if I'm openly carrying and someone wants to panhandle me, I'll go ahead and give them points for not following the rest of the herd and give them a buck or two. 
»

Or perhaps

downtown Oly isn't nearly as dangerous as some folks think and it has nthing to do with how you carry yourself.
»

oly panhandlers

I used to go to school in Olympia. I would catch a bus at the Olympia Transit Center. People would sometimes ask me for money, but they wouldn't get violent or threaten me if I refused.
»

Let me make my point clear.

Let me make my point clear. Just because you don't think you've reaped the benefits of your privilege, doesn't mean you haven't. The very idea that how you carry yourself effects whether or not you are discriminated against is directly rooted to privilege. Had you been born black or female and had directly felt discrimination, you would likely be singing a different tune.

The fact that you are white does not make you a bad person. I just think that we need to come to grips with the fact that our skin color and gender does give us a very real and tangible head start in life, whether we can point to it in our own experience or not. Sometimes privilege manifests itself in imperceptible ways, and we should carry out our lives with the understanding that others do not have the same opportunities that we do, and for cosmetic reasons, not based on who we are or how we live our lives.

I believe you when you say you see others as equals, I feel the same way. I also know that if I apply for a job with most employers, I have a leg up against many others. It's not my fault things are that way, and I do everything I can to fight it, but it is true nonetheless.

Saying that you didn't "carry yourself as homeless" immediately creates a dichotomy between yourself and, "those other homeless", who for whatever reason, "look homeless". This is just as dangerous an attitude as someone who is unapologetically classist and actively oppresses other people, because it provides space for those ideas, and that behavior, to exist.

»

The way you carry yourself

The way you carry yourself is no doubt an invitation on how you expect to be treated. I never have problems downtown or in other situations when I see other people that do. It is not a tough guy or swagger, I make it a point to look at people right in the eye and tell them hello or ask the "how you doing today?". It seems to throw then off of there game a little and they don't bother me. As far as privilige goes I have no guilt at all in using any of the privilige provided to me, on the other hand I am not going to use any bad breaks I have had as crutch or an excuse. If you are taught you are a victim you will inevetibly act as one.
»

Maybe I just interact

with people face to face idfferent.  I sell things face to face and my work attitude carries over when I talk to people in person.  Look 'em in the eyes, reasonabl tone of voice, etc.. etc..

Regardless of what you think of downtown Oly, I do not enjoy downtown Seattle, even with all the extra cops.  I used to work down there, and don't like it one bit, although it has gotten a bit better.  

I will give a so-called "bum" for lack of a better word the same opportunities in person I give to anyone else, maybe even be a little more tolerant, but I have been burned too.  Several times I have bought meals for people, only to find out they lived in a structured shelter or caregiver enviroment, get three a day if they bother going home, have a payee, etc...  I'm real careful about who I give money to know.  Even several times people asking for change "to make a call" I offer my cellphone and they keep getting demanding for change.  I turn and walk off and see a fistfull of quarters in the guy's hands.

And if you want to know, I have been the object of discrimination by so-called "minorities" who thought it would be funny to "show da' white boy a lesson" and these were not just wanna be punks, but store owners and shopkeepers.  Hatred and discriminiation swings both ways.  

 I still maintain that how you carry yourself and act goes a long way, regardless of skin color.  I suppose General Powell is underpriveleged?

»

Comment viewing options

Select your preferred way to display the comments and click "Save settings" to activate your changes.

OlyBlog.net

OlyBlog is devoted to citizen journalism, including hyperlocal news and discussion specifically about Olympia, Washington. If you care about this community and are tired of corporate media, then this is the place for you.

If you'd like to contribute, please register for an account. Here is a list of local news beats that need to be covered. You can post your news as a personal blog entry, and it will be reviewed (and possibly edited) for promotion to the front page. Once you've established a record of responsible blogging, you can become an autonomous user. You can also send news via email. All members of OlyBlog agree to abide by our comment and fair use policies. If you are frustrated about something said in a comment thread, go here.

Now playing at:

Latest Classified Ads

Get Firefox!


More Flickr photos tagged with "olympia" and "washington"

OlyBlog is a site for news and discussion about Olympia, Washington.
free hit counter