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Submitted by Mike on Thu, 11/08/2007 - 9:12pm.
Nov 8 2007 - 8:00pm Nov 9 2007 - 3:30pm
A continuing rally and containment action for the Port of Olympia is expected to resume on at 8 pm Thursday. Persons interested in assembling to express opposition to the use of the Olympia Port as a cog in US militarism are encouraged to gather near the Port in the area of State and Plum Street. An organizational meeting occurred earlier this evening at the Olympia Free School and there should be street medics, legal support, and copwatch in the area. A phone tree for support is set up with Laurain and a friend taking numbers, documenting a timeline, and rallying folks as rallying is needed. To become a part of the phone tree or to report items for the timeline, call 753-9771. |
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Submitted by wilson on Thu, 11/08/2007 - 11:14pm.You know,
Submitted by Rob Richards on Thu, 11/08/2007 - 11:29pm.Photo
Submitted by wilson on Thu, 11/08/2007 - 11:59pm.Why...
Submitted by Tschida on Fri, 11/09/2007 - 10:06am.One of the great non sequiturs of the left is that, if the free market doesn't work perfectly, then it doesn't work at all-- and the government should step in.
Thomas Sowell
This happens in free, open, democratic societies
Submitted by Guglielmo on Fri, 11/09/2007 - 10:28am.Count my blessings...
Submitted by Tschida on Fri, 11/09/2007 - 10:33am.One of the great non sequiturs of the left is that, if the free market doesn't work perfectly, then it doesn't work at all-- and the government should step in.
Thomas Sowell
Sorry that's all you can see
Submitted by Guglielmo on Fri, 11/09/2007 - 10:47am.Brutal oppression?
Submitted by Tschida on Fri, 11/09/2007 - 10:54am.One of the great non sequiturs of the left is that, if the free market doesn't work perfectly, then it doesn't work at all-- and the government should step in.
Thomas Sowell
Holy smokes! talk about cognitive dissonance
Submitted by Guglielmo on Fri, 11/09/2007 - 11:15am.You bemoan the tactics of anti-war protestors and laud the peaceful tactics of some pro-lifers. Antiwar=vandalism and prolife=peace. How many anti-war protestors were committing vandalism or spitting? Do you know? One? two? five? Out of how many protestors total? And you dare to characterize them all as vandals. Why are you unable to invoke the bad-apple defense now? Just because some prolifers blow up clinics and shoot doctors doesn't mean all prolifers are violent. Just because some prolifers intimidate women seeking services doesn't mean all prolifers are thugs. Give me a blessed break. This is an anti-war protest, and a few people among many may be misbehaving. Characterize it as you will, but the reality won't change.
I respect the peaceful nature of the pro-life vigil folks. It appears they learned something from the peaceful vigils at Legion and Capitol every Wednesday since the beginning of the war, the vigils of the women in black, and the many other peaceful vigils and marches held in our community.
I never ...
Submitted by Tschida on Fri, 11/09/2007 - 11:25am.One of the great non sequiturs of the left is that, if the free market doesn't work perfectly, then it doesn't work at all-- and the government should step in.
Thomas Sowell
Context matters
Submitted by Guglielmo on Fri, 11/09/2007 - 11:32am.Do I deny it? No...
Submitted by Tschida on Fri, 11/09/2007 - 11:39am.One of the great non sequiturs of the left is that, if the free market doesn't work perfectly, then it doesn't work at all-- and the government should step in.
Thomas Sowell
lawlessness
Submitted by enpen on Fri, 11/09/2007 - 12:20pm.Just out of curiosity, Tschida, I'm going to ask a thought experiment of you: Let's all find ourselves in your described utopia within the same capitalist confines we currently operate.
(Shoplifting and vandalism) would be less (of an economic fact) if people were far less tolerant of these and other similarly illegal protest behavior.
We wake up today and the community of "vandals" and shoplifters has seen the light thanks to the pressure of their community, these behaviors are bad and they don't want to be bad people doing bad things so, they stop. Six months later we receive a strange report: Master Lock reports a need to lay off 1000 workers and shut down a lock making factory. One year later stores throughout the country begin scaling down security personnel citing "no further need" for the position. Safe makers begin shutting their doors later that year. Suddenly the country is in the midst of an economic crisis later known as the "lawful years" as it becomes apparent just how large an industry it is that relies upon petty theft and "vandalism."
Like it or not the system and state of affairs you so vigorously espouse as morally right has as its end result a thriving prison system and large sectors of its economy beholden to larceny.
I can't believe you want people to lose their jobs, Tschida. Why do you want people to go hungry? What's with that? Why do you hate America?
Wow
Submitted by Merwyn Haskett on Fri, 11/09/2007 - 12:28pm.Damn the United States! I wish I may never hear of the United States again!
Philip Nolan, the man without a country
Or work for the ACLU.
Submitted by Ehver Green on Fri, 11/09/2007 - 12:32pm.Or work for the ACLU.
So you bought the liberal line hook line and sinker eh?
Submitted by Tschida on Fri, 11/09/2007 - 12:38pm.One of the great non sequiturs of the left is that, if the free market doesn't work perfectly, then it doesn't work at all-- and the government should step in.
Thomas Sowell
oh my gawd, would you look at that elephant?!
Submitted by enpen on Fri, 11/09/2007 - 2:02pm.You're wasting your keystrokes with that liberal slant.
Please answer a few questions for me (don't worry, I already know the answers): 1) With our current system does larceny exist? 2) Are there companies dependant upon it for their existence (e.g. security camera manufacturers, locksmiths, insurance)? 3) Would replacement inventories be created? (I don't know the answer to these next ones) 4) How many jobs are created by the production of one television? 5) 10 t.v.s? 6) 100? 7) 1000? 8) How many television are stolen from sales centers every year? 9) How many computers? 10) How many video games? Hell, I wonder 11) how many hours of television are seen on the stolen ones, how many commercials are seen and how much product has been sold due to the thief/beneficiary seeing those commercials? In the end the amount of industry created by theft becomes a little overwhelming to comprehend. But where does that then go? As the larceny resultant industry is itself a major supplier of disposable income, where would the resultant jobs go? "Honest" jobs aren't going to have the same level of income, so the desired business expansion or home greening is going to be effected like the ripples of a pond, which is to say, it would still be a desire. I still can't get over you hating America.
Re: your newspeak, I'm going to use that sweet little absence of evidence trick. OlyBlog has historical record of you misrepresenting what people have said. If you've done it once, then there must be more times and we just haven't found them yet.
tired, so tired
Submitted by enpen on Fri, 11/09/2007 - 11:51am.challenge the common sense of what they are protesting. Namely our military.
I agree. It isn't common sense, it's extraordinarily excellent sense for the people of our country who oppose this war to try to stop the machine at home.
Not only that I am calling on people in our community to refuse to accept this type of protesting.
If you would show up for awhile to actually get some first hand accounts one of the things you would find is some divisiveness in the community regarding just this sort of behavior. You'd also find people within the community giving megaphone public reminders to not do things like throw trash cans into the street. Or you can continue to throw around uninformed rhetoric thus further cementing your place as a newspeak mouthpiece.
Because the police did not cite or arrest them doesn't mean they were not breaking the law.
Once again your ability to jump to conclusions based on illogical assumptions makes your constant trumping of rational conversation a joke. Repeat after me: absence of evidence is not evidence of absence.
So...
Submitted by Tschida on Fri, 11/09/2007 - 12:27pm.One of the great non sequiturs of the left is that, if the free market doesn't work perfectly, then it doesn't work at all-- and the government should step in.
Thomas Sowell
uh...
Submitted by enpen on Fri, 11/09/2007 - 2:39pm.In an attempt to stop the 'war machine' at home, it is permissible to prevent repair and refurbishment of the equipment that is needed on the battle field?
Yes.
If that was true, then why is it such a crime that when the war started we had to use some vehicles that did not have the armor needed?
Because the war itself is a crime. If you forced people to carry out life threatening criminal activities without life preserving mechanisms in place, would that make the crime you're committing better/worse/same as before?
But now, the protesters are willing to interfere with our troops getting their equipment refurbished and back to them to protect them and to continue pushing the decline in violence and death? Is that the 'excellence sense' you are referring to?
Way to frame the question (coughnewspeakcough). How about this way: Our military, charged with protecting the lives of its soldiers, knows the Port of Olympia cannot be used without resistance by the local populace. By choosing this port it has willingly taken on the possibility of slowing the supply chain, thus further depriving the soldiers refurbished equipment. Why does our military willingly send down an order that has negative repercussions for the troops abroad? I find the sense excellent because this action of local port resistance brings about these sorts of questions.
Frame the question?
Submitted by Tschida on Fri, 11/09/2007 - 3:32pm.One of the great non sequiturs of the left is that, if the free market doesn't work perfectly, then it doesn't work at all-- and the government should step in.
Thomas Sowell
There are few vandals in
Submitted by Merwyn Haskett on Fri, 11/09/2007 - 10:48am.Damn the United States! I wish I may never hear of the United States again!
Philip Nolan, the man without a country
I neve said it is acceptable
Submitted by Guglielmo on Fri, 11/09/2007 - 11:52am.Right you never said that explicitly, nor did I say you did.
Submitted by Tschida on Fri, 11/09/2007 - 12:19pm.One of the great non sequiturs of the left is that, if the free market doesn't work perfectly, then it doesn't work at all-- and the government should step in.
Thomas Sowell
I know you are not stupid
Submitted by Guglielmo on Fri, 11/09/2007 - 12:28pm.Let me clarify.
Submitted by Tschida on Fri, 11/09/2007 - 12:40pm.One of the great non sequiturs of the left is that, if the free market doesn't work perfectly, then it doesn't work at all-- and the government should step in.
Thomas Sowell
Never
Submitted by Guglielmo on Fri, 11/09/2007 - 12:45pm.That sounds like gangsta rap
Submitted by Norm on Fri, 11/09/2007 - 12:47pm."You better stop that snitchin,
Or ya gonna be a victim of ya own fiction,
just keep yo mouth SHUT Yo!"
This happens to me, where
Submitted by Merwyn Haskett on Fri, 11/09/2007 - 12:50pm.Either that or I'd get pissy and post about it, depending on my mood.
Damn the United States! I wish I may never hear of the United States again!
Philip Nolan, the man without a country
In most cases I would agree with you
Submitted by Guglielmo on Fri, 11/09/2007 - 12:55pm.No, not really.
Submitted by Tschida on Fri, 11/09/2007 - 12:47pm.One of the great non sequiturs of the left is that, if the free market doesn't work perfectly, then it doesn't work at all-- and the government should step in.
Thomas Sowell
there it is!
Submitted by enpen on Fri, 11/09/2007 - 2:04pm.You pesky evidence of absence!, you're just lurking everywhere!
??
Submitted by wilson on Sat, 11/10/2007 - 9:32am.No there wasn't
Submitted by Guglielmo on Sat, 11/10/2007 - 9:36am.