That's when the best stuff gets posted! LOL!

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You could have a few more beers & head to the meeting & just say what you want to post!  ;-)

I know you're probably thinking my middle name must be Trouble but it isn't!  hehehehe!

You've taken by far worse hits in the comments section at the O than any of this!

Just because we don't take it seriously isn't any reason to use the plight of the Iraqi's as a way to convince us of anything!  If you feel that strongly about Iraqi's, go over there & make a difference because you're not making a difference for them here!

Pick a topic & stay focused!  Is this about the war or police brutality?  Either way, have fun trying to stop one and make an issue out of a non-issue on the other!

The Iraqis have been killing each other for how long under Saddam? 

But I thought you were worried about "police brutality" in this particular instance, rather than what may or may not be going on in Iraq. 

Quite frankly I don't give a rip about the Iraqi people.  Or any others for that matter.  Isolationism worked for a very long time.  There should be no meddling in foriegn affairs.  

Let other peoples kill each other all they want, let other nations do amongst themselves as they please.  

And lets keep US noses out of it.  All of it.  Genocide?  Civil War?  Get lost.  Go away.  Fight your own battles.  Let the idiots in blue uniforms with "Peacekeeper" stenciled on the side of their vehicles deal with it.  And stop supporting the UN while we're at it, and kick them off of US soil.  

...on several occasions I've witnessed you complain bitterly when people respond negatively to your posts. Why should you be able to get away with it?

"Those who claim they were victims aren't really victims at all because the willing can't be victimized.  Those people willingly put themselves in positions to be treated the way they were knowing full good & well what the outcome may be."

Can we revisit the subject of our man and wife photographers?  Or were they victims of abuse by protestors? 

Now this isn't going to make me popular but the clock swings both ways.  I watched people defend "that poor man and woman" that were "terrorized" and.....wattayaknow???.....they were right where they chose to be.  There was a video posted on The Olympian that showed the male amatuer photog standing with his camera, while police pushed a young couple on the sidewalk (for WHAT, I still don't know).  Interestingly enough, Mr. Photog was allowed in the same 10 square feet that the kids were being pushed from.  I found the footage (I guess you don't really say that with digital, so there is my age showing) rather fascinating.  During the video of protestors pushing obstacles in front on the cars on the street, it seems that Mr. and Mrs. Photog were both out of their vehicle snapping away, which I wouldn't do if I was terrified.

Sorry, Robert, I couldn't allow this point to not be made.

However, it could also be an effort to intimidate and frighten people away from participating in political speech/protest.

Do OPD protocols prescribe the use of pepper spray on nonthreatening subjects? From my current understanding OPD protocols don't really take "nonthreatening subjects" into account. What my current understanding leads me to believe that what OPD protocols discuss is whether the subject is "actively resisting" a lawful order, or not.

However, whether the use of pepper spray, an extreme measure of force was necessary in and of itself, is another matter.

I argue, quite simply, that the use of pepper spray, at least in one incident on November 10th at the Main Gate, was unwarranted, because there was no attempt to initiate peaceable arrests, which could have been used to determine whether the protesters were truly "actively resisting."

I argue that the protesters were passively resisting. Even after the chemical agent was dispersed [edit: dispensed].

You can quote me on that.