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Submitted by emmettoconnell on Thu, 04/03/2008 - 1:04pm.
Over at envirotalk Jim Lazar announces that Quality Rock lost their appeal to expand their operations down south of Tumwater on the Black River:
Here's a rundown of history of the case:
The bolding is mine, because its worth noting the heavy hitters QRP brought to the case. Obviously, the farm bureau, the AWB and the Pacific Legal Foundation saw this case as being more important than just one gravel mine. It would be interesting to get ahold of their filings and see just what tact they took on the case.
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Submitted by security_six on Thu, 04/03/2008 - 1:11pm.Despite having family who used to do gravel mining I can appreciate the difference between a "good" mine and something as f-d up as this one.
"Those who fail an attempt destroy me have made a serious tactical error."Interesting case, important victory for ecology / environment
Submitted by Robert Whitlock on Thu, 04/03/2008 - 3:34pm.Thanks for re-posting this in an easy to read format.
Good article, I like paying
Submitted by wilson on Fri, 04/04/2008 - 8:05am.Ignoratio Elenchi
Submitted by emmettoconnell on Fri, 04/04/2008 - 9:01am.I think you present a logical fallacy there wilson.
You obviously don't like paying very much for concrete. Also, that there isn't enough water in the Black River basin to use for this new (or any new) purpose doesn't have very much to do with the price of concrete.
Concrete is made at dozens of locations throughout Puget Sound and the Northwest, this particular location was bad according to the rules we all live by.
Who says I dont like paying
Submitted by wilson on Sat, 04/05/2008 - 7:49am.What metric do you use
Submitted by Guglielmo on Sat, 04/05/2008 - 8:30am.Ok, Red Herring then
Submitted by emmettoconnell on Sat, 04/05/2008 - 1:40pm.Red Herring is the same fallacy. While you could assume another gravel mine could lower the cost of concrete, there is no guarentee this would happen. And, that it could result in lower concrete costs isn't material to the ecological effect of the development.
I too wish this hadn't gone to court, but oftentimes what happens is that a state or local agency signs off on a permit, someone disagrees with the government's interpretation and sues.
By the way:
All of the members of the state supreme court are elected, as is the Mason County Superior Court judge and the Appeals court judge. The only person who wasn't was the original hearings examiner, who is appointed by the elected. Thurston County Commission.