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Submitted by Robert Whitlock on Thu, 05/22/2008 - 12:04pm.
I went to the city council meeting last Tuesday and here are a few remarks I would like to share in retrospect. I will also attempt to connect the dots between some of the topics of the meeting.
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Then there was an award ceremony conducted by Farmer's Insurance to recognize Olympia, Thurston county and other cities regionally, for being a "secure city" (i.e. metro area). There's more information about the secure city awards on the city website (in the meeting agenda packet.) Next was public communications. Several individuals stood up to defend homeless RV campers in downtown. One idea was to provide opportunities for the campers to function as security patrol in the areas that they are parked. People testified as to how the campers are picking up trash around their vehicles. Maybe it would be possible to find a solution that is mutually beneficial to the campers, and to those who currently don't want the campers. One of the council members took the opportunity to berate those who spoke up in defense of the campers by saying that she is aware of felons, even (strikingly) including a "baby raper," amongst the campers.
Then came a communication about the Environmental Protection Agency and Wetlands Month. May is the EPA Wetlands Month. So the time is appropriate to have a discussion about the health of wetlands and their importance to the health of human societies. Wetlands provide an important ecosystem for a huge variety of species. What is the current state of wetlands in Olympia (and regionally)? Are wetlands flourishing and prospering? The speaker said that there is need for a much greater investment in the study of wetlands and in measures to ensure the continuing stability of wetlands. There was also a sea-level rise presentation conducted by city employees. It is alarming to know that Olympia is one of the most tidally-influenced-flood-prone cities in the Puget Sound. Downtown Oly is also extremely susceptible to the effects of a predicted sea-level rise. Downtown Olympia already floods during high tides. High tides regularly come within 1 foot of the lowest portions of downtown and those areas have a tendency to flood during inclement weather (and times of high flow in the rivers). Downtown Olympia's proximity to sea-level makes it for a special place and also one that has special considerations and special concerns in the face of a predicted rise in sea-level. Now to connect the dots between housing, security, sea-level rise, building on the isthmus and wetlands. Houseless people live in campers in downtown, and we have a proposal that would encourage a developer to bring in condominiums for millionaires. We also have a predicted rise in sea-level that may come to see flooding in much of the downtown corridor on a regular basis.
By choosing to address the concerns, and fundamental root causes, of chronic poverty; by choosing to develop a natural area that will promote the health of ecological systems, and an awareness of the importance of ecological systems; we can choose a future-oriented path to true-sustainability. [edit: p.s. Also notable was what I perceived as the Council sentiment to cooperate regionally, national and internationally on addressing the threat posed by sea-level change. This is in contrast to Council sentiment about cooperation on opposing aggression as evinced by the federal government. These issues are related. The same attitudes and philosophies which cause environmental degradation and climate disruption are embodied in the Hobbesian model of power-politics that endorse and enable a foreign policy of global dominance - even by means of aggression and coercion. So I say to the members of the City Council: as the city has a responsibility to be a global partner in finding solutions to climate disruption and addressing the threats therein, so too does the city have a responsibility to be a global partner in enforcing all of the laws relevant to war and aggression. If our federal government is engaged in a war of aggression, then our city government has a responsibility to respond accordingly. This would include refusing to offer sanctuary to the machines and vehicles of such an unjust, immoral and unlawful act of aggression.]
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Global partner
Submitted by security_six on Thu, 05/22/2008 - 1:56pm.The City of Olympia has no obligation to do anything globaly, nor should they waste time and resouces doing so.
They are a MUNICIPALITY. Try addressing global complaints to the state or federal governments.
Confucius Say-"He who need inquire if safe with one in pipe, ask loaded question!"no obligation, but...
Submitted by chad360 on Fri, 05/23/2008 - 4:16pm....a duty to work together.
Here is a snap from Seattle, but I'm sure that Oly is also invovled with this council of mayors stuff (looking at ways to implement Local Agenda 21 ideas).
Ecology is smart and works for everybody, so what is the beef?
Sure, "we" don't have to, but then again, "why not?"
"baby rape"
Submitted by Robert Whitlock on Thu, 05/22/2008 - 2:02pm.It has also come to my attention that the "baby rape" that occurred was between a 20 year old and his 15 year old girlfriend. Was it consensual? I am not familiar with the specific case.
Obviously this is a contentious issue. But to term intimate relations between a 15 year old and a 20 year old as "baby rape" is egregiously misleading.
It is misleading
Submitted by security_six on Thu, 05/22/2008 - 2:07pm.It is also illegal for a 20 year old to have sex with a 15 year old.
I do think the coucilperson who made the "baby raper" statement should apologize for her misleading comment.
Confucius Say-"He who need inquire if safe with one in pipe, ask loaded question!"
The Olympia Police Department
Submitted by ChynaDoll on Thu, 05/22/2008 - 2:08pm.Dd y gt th cr nmbrs?
Submitted by security_six on Thu, 05/22/2008 - 2:12pm.Rhtrc nd bslss clms r grt fr hngng rnd wth ppl nd whnng bt "th mn" nd "th systm." Wh dn't y g t nd d smthng bt t, nstd f jstfyng yr nnctn wth " wld hv gttn rrstd."
Hnstl, gt hssld fr hw crr m hndgn nd wrkd ths ss t wth PD. vn ld t n ntr trnng sssn fr th whl dprtmnt.
Srl thr ppl cn ffctvl dl wth plc prblms?
Cnfcs S-"H wh nd nqr f sf wth n n pp, sk ldd qstn!"
Are you sure the Officers in
Submitted by Merwyn Haskett on Thu, 05/22/2008 - 4:06pm.I'm not saying that's the case in this incident, I'm just asking is all.
You can blow out a candle / But you can't blow out a fire / Once the flames begin to catch / The wind will blow it higher
Good point
Submitted by security_six on Thu, 05/22/2008 - 4:13pm.I second that, there are a couple of officers I would be comfortable with teasing and whatnot, that may have been the case here, or maybe even a case of mistaken identity?
Confucius Say-"He who need inquire if safe with one in pipe, ask loaded question!"They didn't know him...
Submitted by ChynaDoll on Thu, 05/22/2008 - 5:09pm.ChynaDoll
Rhenda Strub
Submitted by Laurian on Fri, 05/23/2008 - 5:36am.needs at the very least to retract her inflammatory remark and apologize to the constituent she slandered and do so publicly. The most damaging and potentially lethal allegation someone can make against a man is to accuse him of committing sex crimes especially against children.
The much touted City council's newly found civility seems to be limited Tri Vo and ex-council member lobbists.
She's is trying to become
Submitted by Guglielmo on Fri, 05/23/2008 - 9:12am.I love Pam Roach jokes
Submitted by Katherine on Fri, 05/23/2008 - 2:25pm.Many have aspired but few have achieved
Submitted by Laurian on Fri, 05/23/2008 - 5:03pm.the abysmal depths that is The Roach. Ellen Craswell's came close in the early 90's with her 'cut off their thingies' comment on the Senate floor during a debate over castrating sex offenders.
Rhenda is a piker compared to Church Lady and The Roach. I was thinking more along the lines of Janette Hawkins but a girl can always dream can't she.
But seriously folks. Dash off an email to Ms. Strub mailto:rstrub@ci.olympia.wa.us and tell her how out of bounds her Baby Raper comment wa. I have.