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Submitted by Katherine on Fri, 03/14/2008 - 4:55pm.
I'm starting a separate thread because a discussion about the actual proposed PBIA budget, I believe, is important. However, the title of Emmett's post is misleading and a mistake made by many. The Parking and Business Improvement Area (PBIA) was formed by ordinance of the Olympia City Council after a simple majority of business owners in the bounds of the proposed PBIA signed a petition in favor of it. The Olympia Downtown Association is a private non-profit who seeks to promote downtown business. It was members of the ODA who worked on getting the PBIA passed. The argument in favor of the PBIA differs depending on who you talk to. Many saw it as a way to pay for a parking structure. Others saw it as a way to address pressing issues downtown, such as "clean and safe" and business retention, and other areas that were not getting the proper attention from the city. Still others saw it as a way to force a more coherent voice of downtown businesses in order to be better lobbyist to the city. I'm sure there are plenty more reasons than those, but they seem to be the most prevalent. The important distinction between the PBIA and the ODA is that the PBIA is public. The assessments that businesses pay are collected by and spent by the city. The city uses an advisory board to make recommendations on the expenditures of that money, but ultimately has total control over how that money is spent. The ODA is clearly private and autonomous. Where the two bleed together is through the contract that the city holds with the ODA to provide all administrative support to the PBIA. The details of this contract are in the council packet (look for Exhibit A: scope of services). We (the PBIA advisory board) are working very hard and spending a lot of volunteer time to make the best recommendations possible to the council and to serve the ratepayers to the best of our abilities. We are not one and the same as the ODA. We do share two board members with the ODA board. We also have three board members who are on the record as speaking out against the PBIA while it was being formed. The ODA plays no role in setting the agenda for the PBIA or in making budget decisions. However, in the interest of putting a stop to reinventing the wheel, we do find topics and programs that we can work on in tandem. One example is a joint ODA/PBIA alley committee. But to reiterate, the ODA is a private organization and has no say in how a public advisory board operates.
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lower case?
Submitted by chad360 on Fri, 03/14/2008 - 5:08pm.I'd didn't read it as DNA, but as one of the many "downtown associations"...
To me the lower case was to describe what the PBIA is (it is an association downtown).
...Thanks for the information about the PBIA & the DNA.
city info
nope. not DNA either...
Submitted by Katherine on Fri, 03/14/2008 - 5:27pm.all three?
Submitted by chad360 on Fri, 03/14/2008 - 5:37pm.Katherine, do you know if all three groups work on projects together?
>chuckle<
..with so many organizations around, I really appreciate your time in posting this info., and it is great to learn more about the ODA.
I'm always looking to collaborate with stakeholders
Submitted by Katherine on Fri, 03/14/2008 - 5:49pm.The ODA
Submitted by Rob Richards on Fri, 03/14/2008 - 5:58pm.No idea
Submitted by Katherine on Fri, 03/14/2008 - 6:03pm.I remember this from years ago.
Submitted by Rob Richards on Fri, 03/14/2008 - 6:04pm.when I wrote it I read "a"
Submitted by emmettoconnell on Fri, 03/14/2008 - 7:12pm.In what significant ways are
Submitted by Laurian on Fri, 03/14/2008 - 7:59pm.In what significant ways are the ODA and the PBIA separate organizations?
1. The Olympia Downtown Association Assist Board with elections to the Advisory Board created in Ordinance No. 6375The 1st clause bothers me the most. As I read the document the Oly City council considering as Option #1, it appears the ODA is proposing to recruit and administer the election of a body it will in turn contract with to provide services. If so, why is this not ethically problematic?
6. When notified by the City, resolve disputes by any Ratepayer aggrieved by the amount of an assessment
The ODA, a private organization, will resolve disputes over a public debt. Shouldn't the PBIA, a public organization, retain this function to itself?
Taking the document as a whole I think it's unreasonable to view the PBIA as a publicly subsidized program of the ODA regardless of the legal distinction between the orgs.
The PBIA has a controversial history. When it was first implemented a significant number of business owners opposed the PBIA to the point they refused to pay their assessment. I do not know if this is still true. I would be interested to read what downtown business owners think about the PBIA.
I'll address what I can in
Submitted by Katherine on Fri, 03/14/2008 - 10:27pm.I'll address what I can in what you wrote. In the two years the PBIA the advisory board has had a nomination committee made up of current board members. The ODA assists the board in that they handle all the administrative aspects of the election: printing, mailing and counting the ballots. The board is elected from and by the over 500 businesses that populate the PBIA, not just the 100 or so businesses that are ODA members. Your argument confuses me as the ODA isn't proposing to do anything in the budget (the fifteen member advisory board is recommending the council adopt it), or in the contract. The ODA has been selected by the city to handle the admin of the advisory board.
As far as resolving disputes, I'm confused by that as well. Why would the city want the ODA to handle that? I'll just point out that the PBIA isn't a public organization. It is a geographic area with a volunteer advisory board to the city. The real question is should the city retain this function to itself. But again, it's the city's contract.
I agree that "it's unreasonable to view the PBIA as a publicly subsidized program of the ODA", but I'm afraid that you really meant "reasonable". I find it irritating that you would sum up the work of fifteen volunteers to the city as merely subsidizing a private organization. Especially as the only ODA program to date that the PBIA advisory board has supported is Downtown Clean-up.
There have been several ratepayers attending the recent meetings of the PBIA, most of whom are unhappy with the PBIA and confused by what it actually is. Hana from Inside Vintage captured the best approach to controversy (of any sort, really) that I've heard in a long time when she said the she was coming to the meetings to learn more and to confirm or dispel her concerns about the PBIA.
I'll also add that if you
Submitted by Katherine on Fri, 03/14/2008 - 10:30pm.I'll second that motion.......
Submitted by w1r3d1 on Sat, 03/15/2008 - 10:24am.