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Submitted by DrewHendricks on Sat, 05/10/2008 - 6:54pm.
WIP News Service covered May Day 2008 on extremely tight deadline, but the story which was published in May’s WIP seriously departed from the mission statement of Works in Progress, from human values, and from advocacy for justice.
» The piece was published without an individual byline, but clearly argues in favor of the act of throwing rocks at events such as May Day. I quote: “Some will rightly point out that tactics need to be escalated…” “Anybody who is swayed against our cause by seeing people fight back was … never on our side in the first place.” These quotes are from an imaginary discussion with 20 imagined “anti-imperialists.” They are laid out in argument, counter-argument style in a common form of propaganda called false equivalence. The arguments are presented side by side as if they are equally valid, and the piece does not openly state that one or the other view is correct, except in its choice of the phrase “…rightly point out..” and “…our side,” as if we the readers are on the side of those who threw these rocks. The good intentions of those who threw rocks are also assumed by the author, opening the question of whether the author participated in this act. The story is also full of critical inaccuracies. Three people were reported arrested in the WIP story. Six people actually were arrested. The story incorrectly claims that the Olympian falsely accused the marchers of traffic disruption, despite statements by organizers that the route was not intended to go down 4th Ave against the flow of traffic, as it was doing when people threw rocks at the windows of US Bank. But the most glaring inaccuracy was shared by most journalists in their accounts of that day: a person with the Medics’ Collective was hit in the head with one of the rocks which failed to penetrate a window, with minor injuries not needing medical attention. WIP not only failed to report this, but actually failed to consider the possibility in its piece. The person hit by this rock had yet to receive an apology from anyone for what happened as of Saturday, May 10, 2008. In my opinion, throwing these rocks at these two banks was not an act of “fighting back.” A broken piece of glass does not change the relationship of people to money, or people to property, or anything other than the account balances of the glass company and the bank’s insurer. Opening up a “red zone” action during a “family friendly” event disrespects the notions of consent, democracy, choice, etc. And hitting another participant in the head with a rock is simply not acceptable behavior among 5-year olds, much less adults. The police violence that day (at least one undercover officer pulled a gun and directed it at people, and another officer named Richard E Allen shot a pepper ball at the groin of a person at close range, who was not arrested afterward) is also not acceptable, and my arguments should not be construed to defend the arrests or the street violence police engaged in to stop the un-arresting of persons grabbed by the cops. But the WIP made a serious error in judgment to allow this piece to defend actions which we would loudly decry if they had been undertaken by an agent provocateur. In fact, we should assume they were - since they achieved the same end.
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If any one wants to read what was wrote
Submitted by PeaceCompass on Sat, 05/10/2008 - 7:27pm.Here is the story: WIP MAYDAY
More fringe from the
Submitted by Ehver Green on Sat, 05/10/2008 - 8:20pm.Uh...
Submitted by jlw on Sun, 05/11/2008 - 5:59pm.Sure. You sent the same
Submitted by Ehver Green on Mon, 05/12/2008 - 9:56am.Sure. You sent the same text to print. It's one thing to post on Olyblog as a first hand account in "real-time." Quite another to actually run it in what is deemed by some to be an alternative news source. I'm familiar with deadlines. Quality over quantity.
And, just so it's clear, Meta didn't lose because she smokes. She lost because Doug won.
You're right.
Submitted by Rob Richards on Mon, 05/12/2008 - 1:04pm.Not on for conspiracies...usually
Submitted by Katherine on Mon, 05/12/2008 - 2:17pm.Matt B. works for The Olympian.
Submitted by Rob Richards on Mon, 05/12/2008 - 2:37pm.Hate to say it
Submitted by Laurian on Mon, 05/12/2008 - 3:50pm.So I guess you're not voting for Obama then?
Submitted by Rob Richards on Mon, 05/12/2008 - 4:08pm.Huh?
Submitted by Laurian on Mon, 05/12/2008 - 4:55pm.Anyway, running for office in this tiny pond we call Olympia...
Oh never mind.
Back to the issue at hand.
yeah, nevermind
Submitted by Rob Richards on Mon, 05/12/2008 - 5:01pm.We often re-post articles from WIP here
Submitted by jlw on Tue, 05/13/2008 - 6:10pm.The real problem with the WIP piece
Submitted by Laurian on Sun, 05/11/2008 - 6:46am.is it can't decide if it's reportage or editorial. It is a clunky attempt at Participatory Journalism ala H. Thompsen, T. Wolfe but lacking any literary merit. Not only are the editorial portions pedantic, it got the reportage wrong.
The piece may, and I stress may, pass lower standards of Day Of blogging but with the luxury of time between the event and publication a real Editor should have really Edited the piece. I would have corrected the factual errors and split it into two pieces. Please do not construe my words as an endorsement of the editorial position of the piece. I do not. But it is not the job of an editor to censor. That is rightly the realm of a Publisher, in this case the WIP Collective.
The good folks at WIP put out Wip as a love with an unpaid, under-staffed group doing the best they can. WIP has been muck-raking hyperlocal media for decades now and I for one appreciate that. Wip sets some pretty lofty goals for themselves. This time they missed.
Good critique Drew.
I'll consider myself fired!
Submitted by jlw on Sun, 05/11/2008 - 5:55pm.As for the criticism of the article in question, I do have to apologize for the inaccuracies. We were on a very tight schedule, and we are not a publication that is accustomed to working very quickly. Taking more time for fact checking would have delayed our production schedule, which would have delayed our distribution schedule, and so forth. As for the Medic, I am pretty sure the author was unaware of this injury. Personally, I am very sorry to hear that someone was hurt.
I have to disagree with Drew Hendrick's interpretation of the article as arguing in favor of rock-throwing. Because of the last minute nature of this submission, the decision to publish it was made at the last minute after just a few people had read the story. (Usually, we have the opportunity for a wider breadth of opinion at our editorial meetings.) But the pressure of our publication schedule was upon us, acutely -- we received the piece after 12:30 a.m. on May 2, and our print run was scheduled for 9 a.m. that day. All of us who made the decision to print the piece were upset by the events of Mayday, and felt that they were very destructive to movements that community activists have spent a lot of time and effort in building -- indeed, we spoke of little else as we finished laying out and proofreading the May issue. The article we published does give some consideration to arguments in favor of escalating tactics, tactics with which I disagree. We didn't feel that it advocated for such tactics, however, but presented arguments on both sides.
It will be interesting to see what is submitted on this topic for the June issue. I anticipate that we will have time to consider submissions as a group, as usual, and it is very likely that we will publish something condemning the tactics of the vandals, and deploring their detrimental impact on community activism. We may also receive and publish something more sympathetic to the rationale of people who would use such tactics, if we decide as a group that it warrants publication. Even while I do not advocate violent tactics, I feel it is important to listen to, rather than silence, people who feel oppressed. Kind of like our mission statement. And I would rather read about it in WIP than on the capital wall.
inherent weakness of the medium
Submitted by emmettoconnell on Mon, 05/12/2008 - 6:57pm.Print sucks because once you put it out there, its out there. I would have suggested, if there were any questions at all about the piece, not running it. Saves you the trouble of having to clean up after yourself.
Also "being rushed" is a sorry excuse when WIP has a website and could have published any number of first hand accounts and commentaries on MayDay there.
Maybe now is a good time for WIP to consider becoming more of an online publication anyway. Olyblog seems to have proven that you can make an impact being online only.
WIP doesn't update the website between issues
Submitted by jlw on Tue, 05/13/2008 - 6:38pm.I'm not trying to defend SondraKs folks, but..
Submitted by emmettoconnell on Tue, 05/13/2008 - 7:31pm.It's the ill-intentioned
Submitted by jlw on Tue, 05/13/2008 - 8:09pm.also don't need to accept commments
Submitted by emmettoconnell on Tue, 05/13/2008 - 7:40pm.I've heard it said...
Submitted by The Original Yoda on Tue, 05/13/2008 - 8:09pm.It would be great if we had
Submitted by jlw on Tue, 05/13/2008 - 8:12pm.volunteers?
Submitted by Mike on Wed, 05/14/2008 - 6:31am.If you recognize that it is an emotional issue...
Submitted by groovyyaya on Sun, 05/11/2008 - 10:12pm.Please bear in mind that WIP
Submitted by jlw on Tue, 05/13/2008 - 6:22pm.Journalistic integrity...
Submitted by security_six on Tue, 05/13/2008 - 6:30pm.Must be nice being able to not have to check stuff for accuracy before printing it. I may stop reading WIP if everything is so slipshod.
I always thought you guys went over stuff before printing it. The far leftist bias is always interesting, but I hope for facts to go with the opinons...
Confucius Say-"He who need inquire if safe with one in pipe, ask loaded question!"Gosh, that will be awful
Submitted by jlw on Tue, 05/13/2008 - 6:36pm.Yeah
Submitted by security_six on Tue, 05/13/2008 - 6:43pm.After all the outpouring of love I decided to come back. You still reading? Don't pay attention to me when I'm tired and depressed. I get wishy washy sometimes.
At any rate, what did happen to journalistic integrity? There should be some sort of official apology to the community for failing to ensure this piece was properly edited and handled.
Confucius Say-"He who need inquire if safe with one in pipe, ask loaded question!"Yes, next month will print a correction
Submitted by jlw on Tue, 05/13/2008 - 6:47pm.mebbe
Submitted by security_six on Tue, 05/13/2008 - 6:49pm.I should write something and submit it myself...
Confucius Say-"He who need inquire if safe with one in pipe, ask loaded question!"I'd like to ask you all to
Submitted by Sandy M on Tue, 05/13/2008 - 9:53pm.[edit #2 ... Thanks, Norm]
I'd like to ask you all to consider the following:
WIP is a rare treasure. To borrow from language I've used before: Very few communities are either fortunate enough or resourceful enough to have anything like it.
The only reason we are fortunate enough to have this unique resource is because people [such as jlw] sacrifice untold hours of time and energy, and usually sacrifice in other ways, including personal finances. WIP is entirely produced through an all-volunteer staff. The only entity which has ever made money off of WIP is the Shelton Journal, who prints it.
Not all articles hit the mark, but every now and then WIP prints something that is absolutely stellar in its content, value to the community, and in the quality of writing.
Such is the case with the lead article in the May issue: "Vision Without View, Sound Without Music," which addresses two very timely issues of huge local significance -- the proposed noise ordinance and the proposed high rise buildings on the isthmus and their likely affect on the nature of Olympia's downtown culture.
I'm not sure why the author chose not to personally take credit, but this article deserves attention. Nothing comparable is to be found elsewhere. Check it out here: http://www.olywip.org/site/page/article/2008/05/01.html .
[And it would be nice to send along some words of appreciation to jlw for generously applying his/her talents to WIP." We've been extremely lucky to have him/her with us for as long as we did.]
Thanks, Sandy!
Submitted by jlw on Thu, 05/15/2008 - 4:54pm.Glad to help out a bit =)
Submitted by Norm on Fri, 05/16/2008 - 12:33pm.